Borr 2,591 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 3 hours ago, chartpolski said: Looks like Health and social security take up almost half the tax spend. Cheers. 200 odd billion ...other Haha wish I could fill my tax return in like that lol 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 408 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 15 hours ago, WILF said: I look at it like this mate, that bloke could be getting a million quid a week for all I care, it’s completely meaningless to me and I wouldn’t have seen one penny back if he was getting nothing…..good luck to him. That same principal applies to everyone that screws the system though illegal immigrant, corrupt politician or benefit cheat. They are all cheating the system you cant say you favour one because of class or colour, they are all cheats. I agree totally, but my point was money has no meaning…..wether we give the Ukraine 10 zillion quid or a pound, they will still pull the arse out of us anyway…..same as your mate, what he gets means nothing. I can only ask why you’d prefer that mate ? I didn't say I prefer it I said I would prefer not to give Aid or benefit to any one that didnt deserve it. Is it just because you don’t like it or is it because you think it actually has a direct effect on you ? Good question you wont agree with me but I personally think it does as a legitimate tax payer but I also get your viewpoint on it so a bit of both. In answer to the second bit, my answer is No !, I don’t think it would take a nose dive because they are being imported here on purpose to replace us. Again I believe if this country wasn't portrayed as the land of milk and honey and we didnt have so many people claiming benefits you wouldn't be so keen to come over on a dinghy if you knew free money wasn't being handed out. I drove through a part of "cultural diverse" Bristol yesterday the amount of Somalia's hanging about the street corners was shocking each of those came here knowing they were going to get a free hand out if for one moment they thought they would have to do a 12 hr day grafting to pay their way that boat trip wouldn't have been so appealing. If we wanted to stop immigration would could do it tomorrow, at the border with no problem what so ever…..benefits wouldn’t even figure. Agree but see above. For clarity I believe, and like you its jmho, but benefits for the most venerable of our society are needed and they need to be paid at a living rate anyone who uses it as a career and way of life I wouldnt give them the steam off my piss. All jmho of course mate 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 13,513 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 11 hours ago, Tick Tock said: When you see some of the sorts faking it, I am. Maybe I should have clarified that by saying "genuine people in need claiming benefits". Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 32,049 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 11 hours ago, Tick Tock said: When you see some of the sorts faking it, I am. He's back... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 7,168 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 Benefit fraud compared to tax evasion, rather than chase the little fish better to go after the big money. Benefit fraud v tax evasion: Which costs more? | The Week UK WWW.THEWEEK.CO.UK Labour criticises government for not putting enough focus on rich tax dodgers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 7,168 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 The cost of an incompetent government. They can't keep blaming covid and Ukraine. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 7,220 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 2 hours ago, Daniel cain said: He's back... Not even trying to hide it anymore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 14,050 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 2 hours ago, sandymere said: The cost of an incompetent government. They can't keep blaming covid and Ukraine. Why do we need constant growth. How about we look at sustainability long term. We don't just have an incompetent government we have a completely ridiculous economic system in the west. Does it matter if we are a trillion in debt or 2 trillion, its all bullshite that the globalists are playing at and gambling on. Perhaps if Labour were in they would of borrowed more and we could have a little boom period....but it's still bullshite. Blaming 'government' simply means your so stupid that you believe a few years of different coloured rosettes would fix it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W. Katchum 36,202 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 Top 5 countries for starters on that List can grow as much as they want for as long as they fcukkng want an still won’t ever be the good ole G.B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 408 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 (edited) 40 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Top 5 countries for starters on that List can grow as much as they want for as long as they fcukkng want an still won’t ever be the good ole G.B Probably bottom in the table of human rights as well, strange a left leaning poster like sandymere would even want to post that as a argument. I can see it now China top 3 in projected growth also top in Harassment of activists and dissidents. Persecution of people for religious beliefs. Discrimination against ethnic minorities. The death penalty where there are more executions in China than the rest of the world combined etc. Banging argument that.......................... Edited June 9 by TRUEBRIT66 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 13,513 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 As the saying goes; "there are lies, damn lies and statistics " ! You can find a bar chart to suit any argument. How about a bar chart of the richest countries in the world ? Or a bar chart of biggest GDP in the world ? See where the UK is then. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 14,050 Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: As the saying goes; "there are lies, damn lies and statistics " ! You can find a bar chart to suit any argument. How about a bar chart of the richest countries in the world ? Or a bar chart of biggest GDP in the world ? See where the UK is then. Cheers. Bar chart to show most rights and benifits for blacks, Muslims and queers? After all, that's how the left try to define 'progression' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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