dogmandont 9,337 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 Doctors giving out anti depressants like they're smarties certainly doesn't help peoples mental health. Drink and drugs another catalyst. I've lost friends over the years to suicide, couple were no surprise if I'm honest and a couple came out of the blue and it's those ones that are hard to get your head around. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,626 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Mister Gain said: I'm afraid I have to agree with you 100% on that. My son (only child) killed himself recently. He was found hanging in woodland in a small village in East Sussex during that heatwave in July, was hanging there for 4 days, and we were advised not to view his body. He was 41. He was failed by the NHS, how the hell can a psychiatrist evaluate someone over the phone, surely with mental health body language comes into it? It's a long drawn out, complicated story so I won't go into it here, all I can say is that it is devastating. Very sorry mate..truly devastating.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 It's easy to sit here with a clear head and pass judgment on whether you think suicide is selfish, cowardly or otherwise. People in that position have reached depths I hope I never visit, so obviously they aren't thinking clearly and we can't hope to understand the reasons. I lost a friend to suicide 5 years ago and for several weeks I was asking myself if I had missed something, misread what he said or made him feel he couldn't reach out. I still don't know the answer and probably never will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,626 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, dogmandont said: Doctors giving out anti depressants like they're smarties certainly doesn't help peoples mental health. Drink and drugs another catalyst. I've lost friends over the years to suicide, couple were no surprise if I'm honest and a couple came out of the blue and it's those ones that are hard to get your head around. Personally I have tried most there drugs... None have helped and alot of the stronger ones will have you that chilled out exercise gos out the window.. I chose not to take drugs 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,465 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, tb25 said: I honestly don't feel the people who work in mental health services know there arse from there elbow..not all but most But that's just my personal thought.. That is just so wrong mate ,it's factually wrong and it's the wrong attitude to have . The therapies and treatments have been tested and defined over a long time with a lot of people ,they 99 times out of a hundred know what they are doing ,you may think only you knows about you ,but your ailments arnt unique ,millions of people have been through what your going through ,and the mental health service has seen and helped a lot of them . Go to them with a bit of humility ,assume they know what they're doing ,don't scoff at ideas ,suggestions or treatments that sound silly to you ,be willing to be helped ,open your mind to new ideas and approaches ,listen instead of criticising . Or you could come on here and let idiots like me guide you . 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,626 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, tb25 said: Personally I have tried most there drugs... None have helped and alot of the stronger ones will have you that chilled out exercise gos out the window.. I chose not to take drugs But saying that I did chose to self medicate witch had devastating consequences.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,626 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Astanley said: That is just so wrong mate ,it's factually wrong and it's the wrong attitude to have . The therapies and treatments have been tested and defined over a long time with a lot of people ,they 99 times out of a hundred know what they are doing ,you may think only you knows about you ,but your ailments arnt unique ,millions of people have been through what your going through ,and the mental health service has seen and helped a lot of them . Go to them with a bit of humility ,assume they know what they're doing ,don't scoff at ideas ,suggestions or treatments that sound silly to you ,be willing to be helped ,open your mind to new ideas and approaches ,listen instead of criticising . Or you could come on here and let idiots like me guide you . As said stan..just my personal feeling..and experience.. Over there years I have come to the conclusion know one can help me but me.. The fight continues..but I do no myself that I won't ever be normal or like other men..that's a fact.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 5,870 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, walshie said: several weeks I was asking myself if I had missed something, misread what he said or made him feel he couldn't reach out. I still don;t know the answer and probably never will. It does make you question yourself when you lose someone to suicide I lost my cousin 20 years ago he had been to football with us that afternoon had a few beers as normal went home and hung himself even now I still think did we miss something but I think if he was that way of thinking there was nothing going to stop him 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 7,945 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just read about that lad who committed suicide after getting a gambling addiction during lock down very sad anyone who takes their own life. Those of us who have never had suicidal thoughts or suffered with mental illness to a degree to contemplate taking our own life really don't know how lucky we are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddyluke 528 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Borr said: Mate if you're gonna leave kids behind, then whatever it takes you get help, change your life, habits , place you live whatever. But you don't abandon children.. just think how low some one must be feeling that they still think it's the best thing to do even though kids are involved??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 i know a few that have chose suicide and their ages have varied from 20 to 70 and all barring one youd have never guessed it was going to happen. its becoming increasingly 'popular' among young men and you can see why, look at the pressure thats put on people Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,626 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, South hams hunter said: i know a few that have chose suicide and their ages have varied from 20 to 70 and all barring one youd have never guessed it was going to happen. its becoming increasingly 'popular' among young men and you can see why, look at the pressure thats put on people Both woman and men mate..and children 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, tb25 said: Both woman and men mate..and children i dont doubt it mate just all the ones ive known have been men Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 42,873 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 These days it seems like everyone's to wrapped up in their own lives to give any consideration to others around them ... sometimes a friendly word,a good morning,how are you?can make a massive difference to how some folks are feeling 6 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,388 Posted October 23, 2021 Report Share Posted October 23, 2021 I've been with the mrs just over a year and a half and in that time 3 or 4 of her friends have killed themselves. All in their 20's ffs! What is going on in that generation where death is seen as the only escape? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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