dytkos 17,514 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 22 hours ago, king said: This is what it says mate.... In order to stay compliant, it will be essential to run down your existing stocks of red diesel before the 1st April 2022 deadline. In most cases that doesn’t mean you must remove every trace by flushing your tanks. However, you will need to be able to prove that you haven’t purchased any red diesel after the April 2022 deadline, or stockpiled close to this date. Run down your red diesel efficiently by first making sure you have a precise measurement of how much you have left in storage. Next, draft up a timeline of usage to predict when you would run out, and make a plan for integrating alternative fuel replacements at the right time to ensure there will be no interruption to your operations. 1st of April deadline........ Cheers, D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollieollie 766 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 23 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: All from plate compactors to graders and shovels pal And transit vans 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 10,259 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 08/10/2021 at 19:34, Greb147 said: Talk about dropping a bollock, at least red was a deterrent to some folk. With white it'll be like open season, sure to god there's a catch. are you an anti or what greb im getting worried lol reds were its at why get robbed at the pump get a diesel and get it on cherry not mourn when lads do you sound the type to report the neighbour for it 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, mC HULL said: are you an anti or what greb im getting worried lol reds were its at why get robbed at the pump get a diesel and get it on cherry not mourn when lads do you sound the type to report the neighbour for it You been on crack fella? Your comprehension skills are that of a toddler. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Have heard your dog must be run on LPG cos it keeps running out of gas.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meece 1,957 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know there is no physical difference between red and white except the red dye content for taxation purposes. All this is going to do is load taxation onto anyone who uses fuel for whatever purpose. The guy that I was apprenticed under told me that during WW2 dye was put in petrol and this was a get to work allowance. If you were pulled doing anything else you got a heavy fine. He had a quick change tank along with an upjetted carb and ran on methanol which wasn't restricted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,608 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, Meece said: Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know there is no physical difference between red and white except the red dye content for taxation purposes. All this is going to do is load taxation onto anyone who uses fuel for whatever purpose. The guy that I was apprenticed under told me that during WW2 dye was put in petrol and this was a get to work allowance. If you were pulled doing anything else you got a heavy fine. He had a quick change tank along with an upjetted carb and ran on methanol which wasn't restricted. The red dye has a chemical marker in it aswell mate..some people try and filter it through different things charcoal included to get rid of the red colour.but the chemical marker remains and VOSA can check for that chemical marker.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meece 1,957 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, king said: The red dye has a chemical marker in it aswell mate..some people try and filter it through different things charcoal included to get rid of the red colour.but the chemical marker remains and VOSA can check for that chemical marker.. What I was trying to get over was that making everyone use white is just a way to tax everyone because the red... and marker is only a way to show that no tax has been levied on that product. The actual product is the same. That's why tractors, diggers, and all machines will run on it with no probs at all other than visa. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,608 Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Meece said: What I was trying to get over was that making everyone use white is just a way to tax everyone because the red... and marker is only a way to show that no tax has been levied on that product. The actual product is the same. That's why tractors, diggers, and all machines will run on it with no probs at all other than visa. This is the tax payed on it mate..yea the actual product is exactly the same apart from colour and that chemical marker.. Right now, ordinary white diesel is taxed at the full rate of 57.95 pence per litre (ppl). By contrast, red diesel is entitled to a rebate of 46.81ppl meaning that it is effectively taxed at only 11.14ppl Users who have to switch from red diesel to white diesel next year will therefore have to pay five times as much fuel duty as before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,092 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 So what happens in the republic? Are they still using green??? A few transport companies will make a fortune doing runs up to NI Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meece 1,957 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 Just now, Lenmcharristar said: So what happens in the republic? Are they still using green??? A few transport companies will make a fortune doing runs up to NI Or going backwards and forwards over to Europe with belly tanks. I don't know about how they tax their fuel. From memory I think that I was told the ww2 petrol was blue and they called it pool petrol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,342 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Meece said: Or going backwards and forwards over to Europe with belly tanks. I don't know about how they tax their fuel. From memory I think that I was told the ww2 petrol was blue and they called it pool petrol. Belly tanks were illegal for European travel , dont know if that's changed . And about 20yrs ago red diesel was refined different to white it had lower cetane levels that's why the likes of tractor pulling competitors always ran on white and not red Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,158 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Well I wouldn’t of known until I seen this article 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poxon 5,527 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Can’t see that it makes no difference going from red to white yeah they pay tax on it but there claim it back through the business only people I think that it’ll effect is people that are not businesses like people using it for diesel heating or narrow boaters 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 43,971 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Whatever the details, it’s going to be “Build back Better” picking the pocket of ordinary people……again…..100% 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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