Dogs throwing the towel in and breeding.

[sandymere 6,176]

For my 10 pennies worth its just math, as genetics is just math, especially with hybrids. Genetics is only predictable on the grand scale and the more variables you add the grander the scale needs to be to get a portion of predictability. I had a bull/grey X collie/grey was a thick coward with no pace and no stamina but hyperactive at home. He had 3 separate gene pools to throw a variety of traits, sometimes they will be the right ones sometimes not, in his case not. The Bull X greyhound sire was a decent dog if a little slow, the collie/grey dam was a sharp ferreting/lamper bright as a button. The result of their breeding looked the part but that was it. With pure's there is less variety in the genetics so more chance of breeding want is expected but within that there is still going to be a degree of variety.

There is no way of guaranteeing pups will be any good when from unproven sires/dams, (proven as in having produced decent offspring), its always a gamble but if you want to reduce the risks get a pup from the same breeding of one that's performing well, because those animals parents produced a good un. Alternatively use one as a stud/dam for your own breeding, producers produce whereas just because a performer performs does't mean it will also produce.

See a decent dog working, take your bitch to his sire.

 

Edited September 10 by sandymere

[Astanley 9,921]

Haven't read all of this ,but in my own humble opinion dogs don't just all of a sudden jack , the signs have been there ,maybe you haven't seen them or maybe your in denial ,but they where there .

[Penda 2,130]

Remember this saying your dogs only have to please one person there owner not some bloke who thinks hes the world's leading authority in the running dog world enjoy your mutts and feck  any body else 

[gnipper 4,656]

1 hour ago, Greb147 said:

Yes and I wouldn't think about breeding them tbh. 

A fella I knew had a stunning looking Lakey type, if looks could kill it would be a winner. 

Well put ratting it was squealing like a cut pig when bitten and picking it's spots, thanks but no thanks.

I've seen proper digging dogs that wouldn't look at a rat and I've seen others that would work some quarry and not others.

[Greb147 6,180]

2 minutes ago, gnipper said:

I've seen proper digging dogs that wouldn't look at a rat and I've seen others that would work some quarry and not others.

I haven't seen that myself but there's a difference from being uninterested to dropping them and squealing like a pig once they nip a dog IMO. 

[Bearfoot 1,341]

Iam just worried about all those 2pnd and fivers I've minced bloody awfull

[SheepChaser 5,776]

Some interesting replies lads, good to chat lol.

[poxon 4,546]

18 minutes ago, Penda said:

Remember this saying your dogs only have to please one person there owner not some bloke who thinks hes the world's leading authority in the running dog world enjoy your mutts and feck  any body else 

This is penda

[Greb147 6,180]

Now we know why you gifted King that bull cross....

[Black neck 10,385]

28 minutes ago, Penda said:

Remember this saying your dogs only have to please one person there owner not some bloke who thinks hes the world's leading authority in the running dog world enjoy your mutts and feck  any body else 

Wise words bruh

[Penda 2,130]

9 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Wise words bruh

Dont let the man bring you down

[SheepChaser 5,776]

24 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Now we know why you gifted King that bull cross....

I told king exactly what that bull x would and wouldn’t do mate. Her quarry wasn’t my quarry and vice versa. 

[SheepChaser 5,776]

Just now, SheepChaser said:

I told king exactly what that bull x would and wouldn’t do mate. Her quarry wasn’t my quarry and vice versa. 

Couldn’t would be a more accurate word to be honest. 

[Black neck 10,385]

6 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Couldn’t would be a more accurate word to be honest. 

No use talking 2 yourself over it 

[wyluke 114]

6 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

I told king exactly what that bull x would and wouldn’t do mate. Her quarry wasn’t my quarry and vice versa. 

And thats a big point to the jacking debate, i've heard people claiming someones dog has jacked, however i would say on quarry that should have never been put in front of it