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5 minutes ago, socks said:

Ah but there’s a difference there as it depends on what the dog has done that day. If this was rat number 50 then yep I’m with you. But if it’s rat number 500 when the dog is completely chin strapped then it’s fair enough. 

You not reckon theres a time to pick up a dog before it starts losing then ken ? In that situation like obviously there is times ya cant

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Bred a litter of terrier pups a few yrs ago  and kept back 2 bitches..reared and treated both the same,had them out from pups,pegged out at digs so they could learn the crack,the smooth bitch went the

Remember this saying your dogs only have to please one person there owner not some bloke who thinks hes the world's leading authority in the running dog world enjoy your mutts and feck  any body else 

Posted Sunday at 13:21 "I was walking a pup I had in the valleys and happened into a chap who was shooting a bit close to me, to warn me away from walking near a field or what

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1 minute ago, socks said:

Ah but there’s a difference there as it depends on what the dog has done that day. If this was rat number 50 then yep I’m with you. But if it’s rat number 500 when the dog is completely chin strapped then it’s fair enough. 

Deffo an if it’s a young dog same applies, but it’s still a funny thing to watch an it’s surprised who starts doing it tho 😁

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25 minutes ago, Countryman62 said:

Never been into breeding dogs just love working em, most important thing for me is putting quarry in front of the dog regardless of bloodlines and bullshit, atb

Bloodlines ain’t bull shit sweet cheeks 😂 just look at any animal breeding in any species. Scatter bred you might get lucky, but you tip tings in your favour if you breed them right.

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6 minutes ago, C.green said:

You not reckon theres a time to pick up a dog before it starts losing then ken ? In that situation like obviously there is times ya cant

Absolutely you should never push a dog to its end point but sometimes in the heat of battle so to speak you take your eye off the ball ……. 

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9 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I agree mate but the thing is who in their right mind would buy a pup off tested stock, never work it and then decide to breed it? 

like i said in an earlier post i was just chucking a few scenario`s in the hat mate make the thread a bit more interesting . 

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5 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

One thing you can say about Nuttall, he used to take jackers back and offer you another dog. 

good on him but -- how many owners make  a jacker --- 

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My opinion is worker to worker bred out of honest dogs that can do what’s required with a bit of age on there side preferably I don’t know if it’s write or wrong but works for me.

 

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1 minute ago, Gilbey said:

The age thing is about staying sound as well.

Also know a dog that has developed funny turns/fits, wouldn't want a pup off that

do you think some of that could be down to graft . i think a lot of it would be with terriers 

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2 hours ago, SheepChaser said:

Interesting thoughts ......

Just for the record I’ve never bred a litter of Lurchers in my life ...... and the only bitches I have in my kennels are 13 and 6 months 😂 I had one dog I thought was worth breeding off, a cracker, and I waited until she was a ‘proper’ age and lined her, she was dead shortly after. Pretty much regretted not breeding her earlier and getting some pups on the ground. It left us with one animal out of that litter left which we bred (don’t worry she was five 😂) and that’s mam to my pup.

 

Anyway I digress. I see plenty of folk advocating using certain dogs of the right age on here and in general but which have probably not done a huge amount. I know dogs half their age who have done far far more. For arguments sake we aren’t talking rabbits, but let’s say a fox dog. Which is more tested - a six year old dog which has 5 seasons, 4 of which they have caught Charlie, maybe 10 to 20 a season. Another dog had only had three good seasons on them but owner has put the miles and time in, and killed 50-100 a season single handed. Which one is more tested and worth breeding off and which is more likely to jack the following season ?

Has anyone seen a decent fox dog that did good numbers first three seasons but then jacked in later life with no other excuse than heart ?
 

I think if it like terriers - there are lads digging a dog 100 times a season and lads digging a dog 20 times. Does that make age irrelevant ?  
 

 

A fox Dog is only as good as hes last fox a old lad use to say he could pack it in the next one you just don't know dogs 

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5 minutes ago, Ferretman65 said:

A fox Dog is only as good as hes last fox a old lad use to say he could pack it in the next one you just don't know dogs 

Yer I get tht to a point but at what point would you be happy breeding ? And is it always age or more numbers ? Genuine question 

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