The Jab

[Neobliviscaris1776 1,998]

9 minutes ago, sandymere said:

COVID vaccine math – it seems to be confusing the anti-vaxxers

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I have been seeing the same old bad math from COVID-19 vaccine deniers that I've been seeing from anti-vaxxers...

 

Cult level science in my opinion, Freud style.

The 'attitude' with the way information is presented, would fall on deaf ears of those with a reasonable degree of intelligence. It would be received with open arms from those with underlying self esteem issues and accepted as doctrine.

[mC HULL 10,435]

7 minutes ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said:

Cult level science in my opinion, Freud style.

The 'attitude' with the way information is presented, would fall on deaf ears of those with a reasonable degree of intelligence. It would be received with open arms from those with underlying self esteem issues and accepted as doctrine.

otherwise known as a simpleton lol

Edited July 29, 2021 by mC HULL

[Neobliviscaris1776 1,998]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

otherwise known as a simpleton lol

Mr Simple indeed

[Lenmcharristar 9,173]

So how does the astra zenica work compared to the mrna ones?

[mC HULL 10,435]

3 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

So how does the astra zenica work compared to the mrna ones?

 is made from a weakened version of a common cold virus (known as an adenovirus) from chimpanzees. It has been modified to contain genetic material shared by the coronavirus - although it can't cause the illness. 

[Greb147 6,808]

[mC HULL 10,435]

The oral polio vaccine (OPV) AIDS hypothesis states that the AIDS pandemic originated from live polio vaccines prepared in chimpanzee tissue cultures, accidentally contaminated with SIV virus and then administered to up to one million Africans between 1957 and 1960 in experimental mass vaccination campaigns.

 

or was it as the say transfered from eating chimps infected with siv lol

[Greb147 6,808]

[Daniel cain 42,837]

11 hours ago, SheepChaser said:

Ok, so I’m not usually one for putting stuff in this section. But it’s just spinning around my head and would be interested on folks thoughts.

So first off I’ll say, I’ve not had any Covid jabs. Not initially for any political reason, just because I was busy and lambing when they offered it to me, and I didn’t get to it.

But now, the more I hear, the more highly questionable is sounds.

I won’t be able to travel without a jab, I won’t be able to go to a festival or a night club .....why? Just heard that by me getting a jab it could save a vulnerable persons life. How ?

From what I understand, if you are jabbed, you can still pick it up, you can still spread it. So if I’m jabbed I can go on holiday, and I can pick up Covid or a variant, and I can bring it back here, and I can pass it on. I may still get sick from it, and if vulnerable I could die. But most likely I won’t.

From what I can see ...... that’s no different for me going over seas without a jab.

Surely the jab is only protecting me? It’s not protecting anyone else if I can still catch it and spread it ?

I just don’t understand this obsessive drive to force everyone. They are now talking about making it compulsory! Do people not see how highly questionable that is ?

We allow people to smoke, allow people to drink, and do lots of other questionable things .........

The message has been so insanely inconsistent, the whole way through...... you have to wear a mask standing up in a pub, but not sitting down? What the actual f*ck? We must all have the ap, but medical, police etc all told to delete the ap.

I just really feel like people have bought into a lot of things based upon nothing, and now we are taking a really questionable direction.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

 

 

 

Heard on the radio that Americans /Europeans who have had the 2 jabs can come over here on holiday and don't have to isolate.....we do if we go somewhere....UK are charging our own citizens for tests that are free anywhere else...you can walk in a pub and pretend to scan your phone with the app....give a false name...no cnut checks...big f***ing joke across the board...sooner people start waking up and joining up the dots....the sooner the scum that put us here can be f****d off....don't vote or support the pricks is a start...maybe a march on parliament might make them see that we aint buying it no more

 

 

 

Or folks could buy into it all as gospel and just roll over and have it

[mC HULL 10,435]

17 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

AIDS (acquired immune deficiency syndrome) is the name used to describe a number of potentially life-threatening infections and illnesses that happen when your immune system has been severely damaged by the HIV virus.

acquired immune deficency start messing with your immune system and whos to say you wont aquire a deficency 

Edited July 29, 2021 by mC HULL

[mC HULL 10,435]

HIV is a retrovirus, which means it carries single-stranded RNA as its genetic material rather than the double-stranded DNA human cells carry. Retroviruses also have the enzyme reverse transcriptase, which allows it to copy RNA into DNA and use that DNA "copy" to infect human, or host, cells.

 

rna aye similar to some vaccines ??

[Daniel cain 42,837]

10 hours ago, forest of dean redneck said:

This is a very interesting and emotive topic guaranteed to generate a heated debate .

But for the life of me I cannot visualise you in a nightclub

Country pub maybe

More up his street

 

[mC HULL 10,435]

The main difference between adenovirus and retrovirus is that adenovirus is the largest, non-enveloped virus, whereas retrovirus is an enveloped virus. Furthermore, the genome of adenovirus is double-stranded DNA, while the genome of a retrovirus is single-stranded RNA (+). Moreover, adenovirus infects both dividing and non-dividing cells, and it causes upper respiratory tract infections in both adults and children, while the retrovirus infects only dividing cells, and it has a higher tendency to cause diseases.  

Adenovirus and retrovirus are two infectious agents that come into contact with living cells to undergo replication. Moreover, they can be used as vectors to deliver desired DNA fragments to the host cell during gene therapy.  

lol

[mC HULL 10,435]

so id say all the vaccines are messing with your rna wouldnt you greb lad lol

[mC HULL 10,435]

 

I read with great interest the article by Vojdani et al. [¹], concerning the hypothesis of a molecular mimicry mechanism between the nucleoprotein/spike protein of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and self-antigens. Viruses are notoriously involved in the pathogenesis of autoimmune diseases [²], and the authors reasonably conclude that such a cross-reactivity might lead to the development of immune-mediated disorders in COronaVirus Disease-19 (COVID-19) patients in the long term. The authors also suggest that a similar scenario might take place following COVID-19 vaccination.

Vaccine-associated autoimmunity is a well-known phenomenon attributed to either the cross-reactivity between antigens or the effect of adjuvant [³]. When coming to COVID-19 vaccine, this matter is further complicated by the nucleic acid formulation and the accelerated development process imposed by the emergency pandemic situation [⁴]. Currently, lipid nanoparticle-formulated mRNA vaccines coding for the SARS-CoV-2 full-length spike protein have shown the highest level of evidence according to the efficacy and safety profile in clinical trials, being therefore authorized and recommended for use in the United States and Europe. Although the results from phase I and II/III studies have not raised serious safety concerns [⁵], the time of observation was extremely short and the target population not defined. Reported local and systemic adverse events seemed to be dose-dependent and more common in participants aged under 55 years. These results presumably depend on the higher reactogenicity occurring in younger people that may confer greater protection towards viral antigens but also predispose to a higher burden of immunological side effects.