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Spent a couple of years on a cattle station in central Queensland in me early 20s . Just went over backpacking originally, but after drinking all me cash in the first month ended up with a job on this

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I don't think that's true, a dog that has caught plenty of pigs will have the scars to show for its efforts ,even if its just a bailer. One out a big boar can make short work of a dog in fact I lost(k

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On 22/07/2021 at 00:31, Greb147 said:

So you're saying pigs feel the pain when a dog gets a ear hold?

And of course it helps prevent the pig from getting a hold on the dog but my point remains.

A subdued pig isn't giving the dog proper stick, hence why you don't need a deep game dog.

I don't think that's true, a dog that has caught plenty of pigs will have the scars to show for its efforts ,even if its just a bailer. One out a big boar can make short work of a dog in fact I lost(killed) several really hard dogs due to battling a boar out of ear shot ,once the dog gets a bit buggered the boar takes control & gives the dog a real going over .At times we would find the site of the battle later that day ,at other times we would find the dead dog  during the summer by the smell a few weeks later .Its just a gamble finding a dead dog in our heavy bush ,there are a million places to look. A couple of times our wounded dog would camp up for a week and then turn up sporting infected smelly wounds then be back into it two weeks later ,deep game dogs are needed if they are required to attack and hold a big boar one out .Jackers are common .I cant under stand why a 90lb dog killing a 30lb fox is a test for gamest and a 100kg  wild boar isn't????please explain as i don't live where most of you game sportsmen ,so its all viewed differently ,not many dogs will be killed by a fox but many a good dog has been killed while hunting pigs  .One example was a couple of pig hunting friends had two hard dogs  bull terrier x beardy collie types tracked off on some big pig sign ,hours passed ,& try as they did they could not work out which way they had both gone ,sadly trackers weren't around then .Late in the day the bitch returned ripped badly ,Nig the bull cross was never seen again .This dog was highly skilled in find and stopping big boars in fact they both were top pig dogs .After a 2 week lay off the bitch was recovered enough to start hunting again so the guys armed with a couple more hard dogs went back to the same spot where Nig had gone missing from .They found some fresh rooting & marks of the boar .Again the bitch tracked off and she again went a long distance, they were hoping for a short range find along with a short chase but they didn't get either ,sadly the bitch never returned .We as a group had hunted pigs those hills a long time and agreed that we were sure the bitch had caught up and in the heat of battle was either killed outright so died of her wounds .Now both those dogs tracked off on a scent of a boar the dogs knew what they were tracking a big strong animal that had caused them a lot of pain but yet both bolted off keen to catch up ,now that's a good true test of gamest but I think our days are numbered ,world wide we are loosing our rights to a new order of space cadets that couldn't save them selves in a bowl of warm soup.

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Ya can’t go bouncing around telling folk ya lilac shit machine cost £1,000 in case you bump into another dipstick who paid £2,000 and he’s fearful of the bouncer up the road who paid £3,000  the king of the lilacs pays £7g upwards and bounces around with his bag of shit with shoulders spread wide yo yo  with the ten to two walk 👌

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18 hours ago, toolebox said:

I don't think that's true a dog that has caught plenty of pigs will have the scars to show for its efforts ,even if its just a bailer. One out a big boar can make short work of a dog in fact I lost(killed) several really hard dogs due to battling a boar out of ear shot ,once the dog gets a bit buggered the boar takes control & gives the dog a real going over .At times we would find the site of the battle later that day ,at other times we would find the dog when during the summer by the smell a few weeks later .Its just a gamble finding a dead dog in our heavy bush ,there are a million places to look. A couple of times our wounded dog would camp up for a week and then turn up sporting infected smelly wounds then be back into it two weeks later ,deep game dogs are needed if they are required to attack and hold a big boar one out .Jackers are common .I cant under stand why a 90lb dog killing a 30lb fox is a test for gamest and a 100kg  wild boar isn't????please explain as i don't live where most of you game sportsmen ,so its all viewed differently ,not many dogs will be killed by a fox but many a good dog has been killed while hunting pigs  .One example was a couple of pig hunting friends had two hard dogs  bull terrier beady types tracked off on some big pig sign ,hours passed as well try to work out which way they had gone as trackers weren't around then .Late in the day the bitch returned ripped badly ,Nig the bull cross was never seen again .This dog was highly skilled in find and stopping big boars in fact they both were top pig dogs .After a 2 week lay off the bitch was recovered enough to start hunting again so the guys armed with a couple more hard dogs went back to the same spot where Nig had gone missing from .They found some fresh rooting & marks of the boar .Again the bitch tracked off and she again tracked off long distance, we were hoping for a short range find along with a short chase but we didn't get either ,the bitch never returned .We as a group had hunted those hills along time and agreed that we were sure the bitch had caught up and in the battle was either killed outright so died of her wounds .Now both those dogs tracked off on a scent of a boar the dogs knew what they were tracking a big strong animal that had caused them a lot of pain but yet both bolted off keen to catch up ,now that's a good true test of gamest but I think our days are numbered ,world wide we are loosing our rights to a new order of space cadets that couldn't save them selves in a bowl of warm soup.

I wouldn’t worry too much mate, great answer, but you’re arguing with folk on THL. There is a long pedigree on here of people being experts on hunting a quarry they have never hunted, with dogs they have never seen, in a country they’ve never been to. They are right though, for deffo. 

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5 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

I wouldn’t worry too much mate, great answer, but you’re arguing with folk on THL. There is a long pedigree on here of people being experts on hunting a quarry they have never hunted, with dogs they have never seen, in a country they’ve never been to. They are right though, for deffo. 

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18 hours ago, toolebox said:

I don't think that's true a dog that has caught plenty of pigs will have the scars to show for its efforts ,even if its just a bailer. One out a big boar can make short work of a dog in fact I lost(killed) several really hard dogs due to battling a boar out of ear shot ,once the dog gets a bit buggered the boar takes control & gives the dog a real going over .At times we would find the site of the battle later that day ,at other times we would find the dog when during the summer by the smell a few weeks later .Its just a gamble finding a dead dog in our heavy bush ,there are a million places to look. A couple of times our wounded dog would camp up for a week and then turn up sporting infected smelly wounds then be back into it two weeks later ,deep game dogs are needed if they are required to attack and hold a big boar one out .Jackers are common .I cant under stand why a 90lb dog killing a 30lb fox is a test for gamest and a 100kg  wild boar isn't????please explain as i don't live where most of you game sportsmen ,so its all viewed differently ,not many dogs will be killed by a fox but many a good dog has been killed while hunting pigs  .One example was a couple of pig hunting friends had two hard dogs  bull terrier beady types tracked off on some big pig sign ,hours passed as well try to work out which way they had gone as trackers weren't around then .Late in the day the bitch returned ripped badly ,Nig the bull cross was never seen again .This dog was highly skilled in find and stopping big boars in fact they both were top pig dogs .After a 2 week lay off the bitch was recovered enough to start hunting again so the guys armed with a couple more hard dogs went back to the same spot where Nig had gone missing from .They found some fresh rooting & marks of the boar .Again the bitch tracked off and she again tracked off long distance, we were hoping for a short range find along with a short chase but we didn't get either ,the bitch never returned .We as a group had hunted those hills along time and agreed that we were sure the bitch had caught up and in the battle was either killed outright so died of her wounds .Now both those dogs tracked off on a scent of a boar the dogs knew what they were tracking a big strong animal that had caused them a lot of pain but yet both bolted off keen to catch up ,now that's a good true test of gamest but I think our days are numbered ,world wide we are loosing our rights to a new order of space cadets that couldn't save them selves in a bowl of warm soup.

That's exactly my point, when dogs get killed by a pig it's usually over pretty quick when a pig splits open a bleeder, the dog dies before it knows what day it is.

That's not to say they can't get knocked up and gather damage throughout the years working pigs.

Who mentioned foxes and 90lb dogs pal, I was talking about working terriers, many dogs that tackle pigs would jack from the stick a terrier will take working under ground.

Let's not forget much lesser breeds than the APBT have been used as catch dogs, hell I've seen clips of Great Danes being used as catch dogs, would you class them as game?

I'm not knocking pig dogs, far from it, they have got to be made of the right minerals as well but I don't think you need a deep game dog go tackle a pig, it's all relative isn't it.

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24 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

I wouldn’t worry too much mate, great answer, but you’re arguing with folk on THL. There is a long pedigree on here of people being experts on hunting a quarry they have never hunted, with dogs they have never seen, in a country they’ve never been to. They are right though, for deffo. 

You been quiet mate few stubbles your  out it’s the time you do the most 😂 you been doubling up on 1/4 grown reds mate with them do or die types 😂 👍

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34 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

You been quiet mate few stubbles your  out it’s the time you do the most 😂 you been doubling up on 1/4 grown reds mate with them do or die types 😂 👍

No stopping you eh mc 

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