small ratting breeds

[huckelberry 114]

10 hours ago, socks said:

A nine week old pup won’t have the teeth or jaw strength to kill a rat so stop talking shit. 

she still did though.  the first rats she took where young ones by the way. and and me and my other dogs always treid to catch the big ones when  she was younger but she did take loads(later also full grown rats)  with her puppy teeth. it is just how it is if you don't believe it that is fine by me. 

Edited July 1, 2021 by huckelberry

[socks 32,253]

49 minutes ago, huckelberry said:

she still did though.  the first rats she took where young ones by the way. and and me and my other dogs always treid to catch the big ones when  she was younger but she did take loads(later also full grown rats)  with her puppy teeth. it is just how it is if you don't believe it that is fine by me. 

Look fella your not in the pub talking to naive young lads who hang on your every bullshit world. This site is full of folk who have been at this game for decades. I have probably killed more rats in a day than you’ve killed on your life. So please don’t embarrass yourself any further by spouting any more shit …….

[Elchapo 3,090]

15 hours ago, Bosun11 said:

9 weeks and ratting under pallets....

No dog has ever been ruined by late entering but plenty have been ruined by starting them too early...

I do know of a bloke who has mini bushing dogs, tiny little yorkie looking things. No idea what they are like on rats but they can run through an earth like its the Mersey Tunnel. Wouldn't know if they could fit under pallets either, that job would best suit a big hob ferret imo.

If its tiny ratters you want, breed your own. It's a risk but there are loads of toy breeds you could use. You'd just have to find one with attitude.

Funny though, there are some serious lads who rat on this site and on the ratting FB sites i'm on. Lads that take huge numbers every year. None of them have ever needed mini anything to the job and standard sized mutts have done just fine.

My guess is that your ego wants a tiny dog. Let it squeeze under pallets because your too lazy to move them yourself. You'd buzz off a mini dog all marked up with rat bites and risking it in places others wouldn't put a dog in. Same with your post wanting micro ferrets, when a good standard jill works just fine on the rats. You just want your ego massaged, showing off your mini's...

Think you need to re-evaluate what your doing in this game...

Think I no the ones your on about if he’s from your neck woods , there russle  X chihuahua with years line breeding behind them , I no the lad who started them off and his stock were  ratters , 

they got two rows of teeth top and bottom ,weird little fuckerrs lol 

[gnipper 5,944]

4 minutes ago, Elchapo said:

Think I no the ones your on about if he’s from your neck woods , there russle  X chihuahua with years line breeding behind them , I no the lad who started them off and his stock were  ratters , 

they got two rows of teeth top and bottom ,weird little fuckerrs lol 

Wasn't there pictures of them on here before? I think they called them ferret dogs or summat? 

[Elchapo 3,090]

7 minutes ago, gnipper said:

Wasn't there pictures of them on here before? I think they called them ferret dogs or summat? 

Not sure if someone put pictures on mate , the lad who started them was travler lad from up by me , my mate had couple off him and I no a lad who flys birds ( don’t want put his name up ) from Liverpool still has two , 

that is if im on bout same person as bosun , 

lads use them stead of ferrets , they have heads like ping pong balls , lol 

[Aussie Whip 3,819]

The denning Russells I had were trying to bite through the live catch cage of rats at 8 weeks but I didn't let them loose with them at that age, more worried about the pups getting badly bitten. Don't know if they had the jaw strength at that age but used to mess my hands up playing, lol. 4 weeks old in pic.

Edited July 2, 2021 by Aussie Whip

[Black neck 15,156]

46 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I watched a 10 week old lakes pup nab an nail a half grown rat, pup had a serious little head on it tho an a real bad attitude from before it’s eyes where open

 

Also heard of a 12 week old patterdale pup kill 2 ferrets that’s escaped there run.

 

jist because you ain’t seen summat or don’t think it sounds right don’t mean it ain’t true, either way I wouldn’t start a pup that young but what a man does with his dogs is his business

 

3 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said:

The denning Russells I had were trying to bite through the live catch cage of rats at 8 weeks but I didn't let them loose with them at that age, more worried about the pups getting badly bitten.

I start mine on rats at 4 weeks, there more than capable by then

[huckelberry 114]

19 hours ago, socks said:

A nine week old pup won’t have the teeth or jaw strength to kill a rat so stop talking shit. 

she still did though.  the first rats she took where young ones by the way. and and me and my other dogs always treid to catch the big ones [BANNED TEXT] she was younger but she did take loads(later also full grown rats)  with her puppy teeth. it is just how it is if you don't believe it that is fine by me. 

[huckelberry 114]

my pup van hamelen when she was walking to the pub to brag on about her fairytales 

 

[gaza 503]

I bump into an old fella on my daily walk (warrington)who used to keep terriers. We always have a chat and he’s name dropping all sorts of people, I don’t know anyone with dogs anyway so wasted on me.  But he’s mentioned couple of times a guy who has Russell chihuahuas for ferreting. Thought he was talking sh*t using them instead of ferrets but seems a bit of a coincidence. 

[huckelberry 114]

patterdale pup van hamelen went to the pub  way to early and starting a bar fight because some shitty baby rat treid to bite her nose 

 

Edited July 2, 2021 by huckelberry

[huckelberry 114]

patterdale pups van hamelen  scared and traumatized for life after her first encounter with an nose atacking baby rat 

 

[huckelberry 114]

and for now can we please go on about the original post and quite the crap. or at least don't make negative/ calling name like assumptions. i think that is not the reason for a forum like this. the questioning and asking why or how is fine by me by the way. in my opinion a forum is a way of gathering and sharing information. and yes you will find people there who have a different way of doing things.  to me that is why such a forum is of interest people with other knowledge than me.  i don't care  much about who has caught the most of rats in their lifetime. to me it matters if i might learn something new from how you caught your rats.  to me it aint a pissing contest. but i do need to take a piss at times. i hope that i can choose my own tree to piss against. 

Edited July 2, 2021 by huckelberry

[huckelberry 114]

3 hours ago, W. Katchum said:

I watched a 10 week old lakes pup nab an nail a half grown rat, pup had a serious little head on it tho an a real bad attitude from before it’s eyes where open

 

Also heard of a 12 week old patterdale pup kill 2 ferrets that’s escaped there run.

 

jist because you ain’t seen summat or don’t think it sounds right don’t mean it ain’t true, either way I wouldn’t start a pup that young but what a man does with his dogs is his business

 

3 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:

The denning Russells I had were trying to bite through the live catch cage of rats at 8 weeks but I didn't let them loose with them at that age, more worried about the pups getting badly bitten. Don't know if they had the jaw strength at that age but used to mess my hands up playing, lol. 4 weeks old in pic.

when i wanted to buy my newest dog van hamelen i asked the breeder(who usess them on fox and badger most of the times) if there would be any pups that would work well on rats. he told me that is simple bring along a live rat and and you can see what pup has the drive for it.  when i got to the breeder i first wanted to see the pups(he had 2 nests at that time. and i allready saw a few smaller pups in the nest that got my interest. we when for a walk with the dog and i made up my mind.. that one was the pup i wanted to take home. but then i thought about the live rat i still had with me. well i didn't want to take it home alive  again anyway. so i took the cage out and the pup i choose did not have any interest in the big rat in that cage. so i strated to doubt my choice. i asked the breeder to get the other pups of the nest. and some of the pups showed a lot more interest in the rat. but not a smaller sized bitch pup that had my interest. so we got those pups away and brought the pups from the other nest to the rat and one small bitch pup didn't think twice and went crazy on the rat straight away.  and that pup is now my dog van hamelen. the big full grown rat in the cage she had plenty of drive and will to try to nail that one. but did i want to take the chance with an 8,5 weeks old pup? well no i had 2 full grown dogs with me and she could watch them how it had to be done. she was howling grunting barking like crazy while they did. she wanted to enter the game. but me and the other dogs didnt let her. until a few days later we had a few young rats in a cage. i had send those few days playing with the pups let her chase and bite dead rats on a string. had a small fishing rod style hazel twig with a dried peace of brow rat skin to it to play with her and she seemed to do so well. that when i showed her the cage and saw how much she wanted to take on those 2 small rats that she was up to it. and it seemed that she was. she went with us on a daily basis. i had a lot of work as a rat hunter at that time and i also wanted to spend as much time with the pup as possible. my other 2 dogs where traveling along in my sidecar as always. and the small pup van hamelen went into the sleve of my motorbike jacket.  when we stoped at a rat hunting job and she picked up the exitement of my other dogs  here nose came out of my jacket and she wanted out to help us. so i let her when she got tired (this seemed to happen only when there wasn't many rats) she got back into my jacket .  the first next time she killed rat was a nest of hailess baby rats i saw one of my dogs digging and killing the first baby and took this hunting spot over together with the pup. together we digged to them and i let her kill  the you rats whille my other 2 dogs where barking and groweling from frustration because i didn't let them join in. but for van hamelen this was only an exta motivation. from that time on i don't remenber exactly what rat she killed at wat time and were. but for a pup 2 experienced full grown dogs are not an even match so she had not much chance of killing rats. but when i saw that it wasnt'a big rat and she could handle the fight i would protect her from the other dogs so that she could have her own private rat hunt. and when it was a bigger rat that might be to hard for her me and the other dog would jump in straight away to take over the fight.  after i had van hamelen just a week or 2/3 one of my dogs died suddenly and we stll had loads of ratting work.  and at that time she did start to catch a lot more and also bigger rats and because we had one dog less. she also had more private time with those because we where not always close by enough to jump in straight away.  she was hard for herself and the only thing that seemed to matter to her was killing the rats getting a rat bite in here nose seemed to happen way to much and i hoped that she would becaume more carefull for myself and learn from ravi my older dog who is a crazy shaker and does not get bitten much by rats because of her crazy shaking tornado.  but van hamelen was more of a biter than a shaker and she just seemed to want to be the frirst to nail the rats and they just should not escape so bite and hold and it it hangs in my nose bite more and deeper and not let go and hope that my boss or ravi comes to help me get those teeth out of my nose soon. she is now about 1,5/2 years of age and she starts to shake a bit more but still not as much as ravi. well at least she knows how to handle the rats better now she doesn't get bitten that much nowadays. to me every bite to her nose is one to much. but for her only the choorhexidrine that i put on her nose seems to be to much. 

[socks 32,253]

I’ve no doubt the pup I bred and kept here now would have a crack at a rat as he is a Bally fukcer but there’s a massive difference between a pup of normal size having a go and a pup that is small enough to fit under a pallet killing rats.