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23 hours ago, Poppy123 said:

I’ve just started to get into racing and wanted to know what a scratch dog is? Also what’s classed as a non ped, I have a saluki whippet grey would she be classed as a non ped?

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23 hours ago, Poppy123 said:

I’ve just started to get into racing and wanted to know what a scratch dog is? Also what’s classed as a non ped, I have a saluki whippet grey would she be classed as a non ped?

no she's a lurcher...

or some might say longdog

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23 hours ago, Poppy123 said:

I’ve just started to get into racing and wanted to know what a scratch dog is? Also what’s classed as a non ped, I have a saluki whippet grey would she be classed as a non ped?

Scratch dogs are dogs that race off a level start, no handicap or weight advantages. 

They are the heavier dogs. Usually racing in weight classes of up to 36lb, up to 45lb, and up to 55lb, and sometimes "no limit"

Non-peds are simply whippets that aren't KC registered, and most have some greyhound blood in their makeup.

A Saluki/whippet/grey wouldn't be classed as a non-ped whippet, but an old rule at my local clubs states " dogs must be smooth coated and of whippet like appearance ", so, if it looks like a whippet, it could have anything in its makeup and it would be up to the committee and/or handicapper if it was allowed to run.

Hope this is helpful ?

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I've only ever been to one racing whippet meet (back in the mid 90s in the New Forest if memory serves me well). I took my collie x whippet along, but not to race, just for the socialisation...I'm sure there was some bloke there with a whippet x saluki. But, as chartpolski said, she was "smooth coated and of whippet like appearance."

She didn't win her race.

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Many/most non-pedigree whippets have long and illustrious pedigrees. As stated above non-ped means not Kennel Club registered. Non-ped is a bit of a misnomer. Same as some non-pedigree terriers and hounds have pedigrees.

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14 minutes ago, eastcoast said:

Many/most non-pedigree whippets have long and illustrious pedigrees. As stated above non-ped means not Kennel Club registered. Non-ped is a bit of a misnomer. Same as some non-pedigree terriers and hounds have pedigrees.

"Pedigree" of a non-ped I had back in the 70's.

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In the past when people have got themselves confused as to what is the difference between a mongrel, a useless but inherently expensive KC registered dog (with the exception of some whippets and some gundogs) and  "non-pedigree" finely bred dogs with recorded breeding I ask them if they have ever won money betting on a racing greyhound? If they have then that dog or bitch was certainly not KC registered and so not a "pedigree" as they perceive it but will have a pedigree going back, way back.

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10 hours ago, eastcoast said:

In the past when people have got themselves confused as to what is the difference between a mongrel, a useless but inherently expensive KC registered dog (with the exception of some whippets and some gundogs) and  "non-pedigree" finely bred dogs with recorded breeding I ask them if they have ever won money betting on a racing greyhound? If they have then that dog or bitch was certainly not KC registered and so not a "pedigree" as they perceive it but will have a pedigree going back, way back.

Good point. My kelpies would probably be regarded as non-pedigree as they're not recognized by the kennel club but I can trace their pedigrees all the way back (multiple times) to the original Gleeson's Kelpie in 1870.

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19 hours ago, chartpolski said:

Scratch dogs are dogs that race off a level start, no handicap or weight advantages. 

They are the heavier dogs. Usually racing in weight classes of up to 36lb, up to 45lb, and up to 55lb, and sometimes "no limit"

Non-peds are simply whippets that aren't KC registered, and most have some greyhound blood in their makeup.

A Saluki/whippet/grey wouldn't be classed as a non-ped whippet, but an old rule at my local clubs states " dogs must be smooth coated and of whippet like appearance ", so, if it looks like a whippet, it could have anything in its makeup and it would be up to the committee and/or handicapper if it was allowed to run.

Hope this is helpful ?

Cheers.

Thank you this has been really helpful :)

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