In breeding in lurches

[Black neck 15,156]

10 minutes ago, Busher100 said:

A decent rabbit dog is easy to come by a good dog for anything else is not so common depends what you like I suppose heard plenty lads “don’t bother me it’s a jacker I’m only interested in rabbits” till they get one that’s up for more then that then they’re bang into it all 

Yeah that's how I am I just mek out I ain't bothered then cry in secret down the back shed 

[poxon 5,555]

28 minutes ago, Black neck said:

What's wrong wi a rabbit dog ,it's not an insult ya know

I’m deeply insulted I may have to cry my self to sleep tonight ? 

[MagyarAgar 88]

From a genetics viewpoint inbreeding is always a bad move. You want diversity for a healthy/resistant population.
Inbreeding is only a shortcut where the downsides far outweigh the positives, in my view.

You can see what a lot of inbreeding gets you, by looking at todays show-bred dogs.

A lot of the good qualities you see in our 1st and 2nd gen crosses are, in my opinion, originating from the heterosis effect.

I wonder where our dogs would be today, if we would breed only healthy and cabable dogs with a focus on a lot of genetic diversity (which would be possible today with current biotechnology). Maybe dogs with a working life of 15 years that die of old age at 20? Far less cancer, blindness, deafness? Ah, nevermind, we will probably never know. Too much show-breeders and backyard puppy-farms around.

[Busher100 703]

8 hours ago, Black neck said:

Yeah that's how I am I just mek out I ain't bothered then cry in secret down the back shed 

At least your honest about it

[Penda 3,215]

1 hour ago, MagyarAgar said:

From a genetics viewpoint inbreeding is always a bad move. You want diversity for a healthy/resistant population.
Inbreeding is only a shortcut where the downsides far outweigh the positives, in my view.

You can see what a lot of inbreeding gets you, by looking at todays show-bred dogs.

A lot of the good qualities you see in our 1st and 2nd gen crosses are, in my opinion, originating from the heterosis effect.

I wonder where our dogs would be today, if we would breed only healthy and cabable dogs with a focus on a lot of genetic diversity (which would be possible today with current biotechnology). Maybe dogs with a working life of 15 years that die of old age at 20? Far less cancer, blindness, deafness? Ah, nevermind, we will probably never know. Too much show-breeders and backyard puppy-farms around.

Yeah this is true in some cases I think alot of the stuff your talking of comes through generations of in breeding and breeding from stock with defects and going away from the way the breed actually was at what it was actually bred for performance is the main thing is the dog my type of dog is it doing what I want it to do and is it doing it right faults every dog has it's faults there's never a perfect dog in any way or form, and I think the thing we need to remember the lurcher is a mongrel and a hybred and as we know mongrels as a breed have alot less problems then a pedigree pure bred animal

[Black neck 15,156]

56 minutes ago, Busher100 said:

At least your honest about it

Honesty is the best policy, without Honesty we have nothing 

[Aussie Whip 3,819]

11 hours ago, Busher100 said:

A decent rabbit dog is easy to come by a good dog for anything else is not so common depends what you like I suppose heard plenty lads “don’t bother me it’s a jacker I’m only interested in rabbits” till they get one that’s up for more then that then they’re bang into it all 

I wish my rabbit dogs were jackers on other stuff. Getting old and prefer not trying to get the stick insects off pigs and big roos when out for a quiet day's ferreting, lol.

[Busher100 703]

49 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said:

I wish my rabbit dogs were jackers on other stuff. Getting old and prefer not trying to get the stick insects off pigs and big roos when out for a quiet day's ferreting, lol.

If they’re up for that then they’re not just rabbit dogs are they

[Penda 3,215]

12 hours ago, Busher100 said:

A decent rabbit dog is easy to come by a good dog for anything else is not so common depends what you like I suppose heard plenty lads “don’t bother me it’s a jacker I’m only interested in rabbits” till they get one that’s up for more then that then they’re bang into it all 

I beg to differ on that 1 mate ain't many dogs that can catch heavy amounts of bunnies on any terrain day or night ferreted bushed egg and do it well there places I know where your average dog would struggle your a young lad you've got a long way to go I'm afraid to say just watch and learn keep yah head down and don't believe the hype because all them people who hype things up there's a reason for it

[Aussie Whip 3,819]

1 hour ago, Busher100 said:

If they’re up for that then they’re not just rabbit dogs are they

They are rabbit dogs due to their build and size and settle down once the ferrets are in. I wouldn't class them as pig or even fox dogs. They will have a go at anything over here but pretend not to see feral cats, lol.

[Busher100 703]

2 hours ago, Penda said:

I beg to differ on that 1 mate ain't many dogs that can catch heavy amounts of bunnies on any terrain day or night ferreted bushed egg and do it well there places I know where your average dog would struggle your a young lad you've got a long way to go I'm afraid to say just watch and learn keep yah head down and don't believe the hype because all them people who hype things up there's a reason for it

Age means nothing if your out enough, Every shitter I’ve owned still caught rabbits don’t bother with bad fields myself mate not worth the risk especially so for a few poxy rabbits 

[Aussie Whip 3,819]

3 minutes ago, Busher100 said:

Age means nothing if your out enough, Every shitter I’ve owned still caught rabbits don’t bother with bad fields myself mate not worth the risk especially so for a few poxy rabbits 

If you do pest control you don't have a choice. I still prefer hunting rabbits in hard spots than any big game. But you need good rabbit dogs.

[nothernlite 18,016]

Mon the we rabbits  dogs 

[Penda 3,215]

3 hours ago, Busher100 said:

Age means nothing if your out enough, Every shitter I’ve owned still caught rabbits don’t bother with bad fields myself mate not worth the risk especially so for a few poxy rabbits 

Ive had rabbit dogs thought they were decent but they weren't a patch on some dogs I knew lads bow this is going back before the age of mobile phones and the 1 dog was catching that many bunnies it would pay his phone bill now there's 1 for yah nipper

[Penda 3,215]

3 hours ago, Busher100 said:

Age means nothing if your out enough, Every shitter I’ve owned still caught rabbits don’t bother with bad fields myself mate not worth the risk especially so for a few poxy rabbits 

Some lads on here run dogs on place where man nor beast should venture and make us mear mortals cringe I wish I owned a decent dog