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? We bred a fair few Collies when I was a young man,...my Father broke many dogs...(back in the day, spaniels and Herders were broke, the word trained,.. was not in their vocabulary?)...Anyway, we had

i would also like to know if the bearded collie carries the merle gene....just asking for a chap i know in Cornwall ...

You are right Neal? Regardless of what has often been claimed and vociferously denied, ..I believe passionately, that both Kelpie Sheepdogs and Australian Cattle Dogs have a Dingo ancestor..

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13 hours ago, gnipper said:

Phil does it not happen with the cattle dogs? They have a weird merle type coat don't they? 

i think theres is from dalmation blood...so i dont think its the same......but i could be wrong

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9 hours ago, talt said:

I have often wondered about Catahoula Leopard dogs from the states, they breed merle to merle and seem to get away with it or rather you don't hear much about it.

interesting point

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1 hour ago, TOMO said:

i think theres is from dalmation blood...so i dont think its the same......but i could be wrong

I always thought that too. However, my wife bought me a book for my birthday called "The Dogs Which Made Australia," and I was amazed by how much stuff I'd always assumed was true about heelers and kelpies was simply made up by Robert Kaleski. By the end of the book he'd been made to sound like the Australian version of Plummer...but much worse. He was one of those people who based his assumptions of what breeds were in a dog purely on physical appearance with no evidence from how they work, temperament etc.

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On 25/03/2021 at 09:32, Neal said:

I always thought that too. However, my wife bought me a book for my birthday called "The Dogs Which Made Australia," and I was amazed by how much stuff I'd always assumed was true about heelers and kelpies was simply made up by Robert Kaleski. By the end of the book he'd been made to sound like the Australian version of Plummer...but much worse. He was one of those people who based his assumptions of what breeds were in a dog purely on physical appearance with no evidence from how they work, temperament etc.

You are right Neal?

Regardless of what has often been claimed and vociferously denied, ..I believe passionately, that both Kelpie Sheepdogs and Australian Cattle Dogs have a Dingo ancestor..

Wild dogs don't hunt for fun,...staying alive is a serious fecking business,...I believe it is this primitive desire to behave in a certain manner that makes them, so intense.

I love both breeds and of course,...the lurchers created from them....?

 

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3 hours ago, OldPhil said:

I love both breeds and of course,...the lurchers created from them..

I've seen some decent ones, that wild survival instinct is good I believe for making decisions and having more self preservation when hunting. I think a straight cross dingo/running dog may be hard to control, I've never seen one though.

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14 hours ago, Neal said:

He was one of those people who based his assumptions of what breeds were in a dog purely on physical appearance with no evidence from how they work, temperament etc.

Seen plenty of books like that, I'd rather talk to blokes who work and live dogs.

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