paddyluke 528 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, Greb147 said: The thing what intrigues me regarding hunting is when did we as humans get over compassionate towards other animals? I'm certain archaic humans felt remorse and guilt when killing animals, when did that emotion overcome our hunting instincts? when the animals are nearly wiped out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Television and film anthropomorphised animals. Rabbits, ( Bugs Bunny), deer, ( Bambi, Rudolph), foxes, (Basil Brush), etc, became quasi-human in many people's minds. Just look at the pathetic response to rabbit being fed to contestants on Im A Celebrity ! Cheers. Haven't humans done that for millennia though? Just look at old paintings, sculptures and carvings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 20,851 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, TOMO said: just watched it.....the comments section below on youtube is funny also.... 2000 comments, all the ones I read were on the japs side 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 20,409 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, Greb147 said: Haven't humans done that for millennia though? Just look at old paintings, sculptures and carvings. Possibly, but there was no qualms about eating rabbit when I was growing up. No quips about things being different in the 1800's, please ! ! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, chartpolski said: Possibly, but there was no qualms about eating rabbit when I was growing up. No quips about things being different in the 1800's, please ! ! Cheers. For millions there's no qualms about eating meat but a large majority are now against hunting for sport. Not so long ago really, baiting of all sorts of animals took place in Britain. We all know it's cruel and did so back then, even those that had the lust for such activities knew it was inhumane. When did the cross over point happen though, when did that compassion start to change the course of history? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 20,851 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, baker boy said: Someone post it on here for us lazy b@stards 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,175 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: Shame he turned away at the last min, them animal right beside the spuds n gravy people are terrorists in my mind and need taken out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,177 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, TOMO said: its a funny one for me....im not nessesarly against it ....but seems a shame to kill such wonderful creatures ... I'm the same mate, it feels hypocritical to condemn, but its just not for me....same as killing an Elephant, Lion, Leopard etc (,as much as I enjoy the tales of these big game hunts)... Running gazelles with a decent running dog on the other hand....yes please..lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,177 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Greb147 said: The thing what intrigues me regarding hunting is when did we as humans get over compassionate towards other animals? I'm certain archaic humans felt remorse and guilt when killing animals, when did that emotion overcome our hunting instincts? Thats a good point mate... Perhaps when we realised we are the direct link to making animals extinct, we begin to look more closely at our activities... I personally feel as much as a conservationist as a hunter, there are no doubts our greed for resource, land, meat, fish etc etc has irreversibly effected earth... in ancient times, you may took what you needed...evolution is a bitch..lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 19,382 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, baker boy said: Was gonna post roughly same as you did in your post but that word had me fckt, I couldnt remember it.. Disneyfication 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, baker boy said: Was gonna post roughly same as you did in your post but that word had me fckt, I couldnt remember it.. I can remember it, just can’t say it in one attempt! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 24,873 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 58 minutes ago, NEWKID said: I'm the same mate, it feels hypocritical to condemn, but its just not for me....same as killing an Elephant, Lion, Leopard etc (,as much as I enjoy the tales of these big game hunts)... Running gazelles with a decent running dog on the other hand....yes please..lol exactly the same on all those creatures...and as you say running gazelle would be great to see 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,637 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 I’d have a go! But I want to do it Ahab style with a skiff and a harpoon. I shouldn’t mind an uzi for those f***ing sabs either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 9,463 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Greb147 said: The thing what intrigues me regarding hunting is when did we as humans get over compassionate towards other animals? I'm certain archaic humans felt remorse and guilt when killing animals, when did that emotion overcome our hunting instincts? I blame Gregg's, steak bakes, and cheese pasties, it's a sin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KES2 171 Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) Whales were hunted almost to extinction for their oil (ambergris) for perfume, blubber for oils for heating lighting etc.and, in Japan their meat- fed to dogs and eaten by humans. In recognition that the individual species (almost all of them - blue, southern wright, hump back etc) might be hunted to extinction, an international whale hunting ban treaty was agreed. Japan hunts whales under a clause which allows hunting for scientific research - obviously not very many. The Japs target the minke species - not the biggest but the most prolific (at the moment). Given the international nature of the agreement the Japanese are clearly in breach of the spirit if not the absolute letter of the agreement. My view is that the odd whale (checking numbers first) should be allowed to be hunted for research - the Japanese are doing it in commercial quantites. Whales are not anthropomorphised - thats ascribing human characteristics to animals. Like the pheasants and deer I shoot, there should be plenty of them - I would stop shooting them rather than see them die out. I favour the anti side of the argument but there is a better way to do it than a stealth boat.I would allow a phased resumption when numbers permit but it will take a few lifetimes since they breed slowly but if not hunted live for a long time 100 years for the blue. Edited November 28, 2020 by KES2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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