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30 minutes ago, FOXHUNTER said:

I know   , what the feck are nest cages ?

Sure grey partridge are gonna happily let me put some cage over their nest. And if it got big enough gap to let partridge in then magpie will get in too! Unless I put a sign on it "no corvids allowed" sure that will work..... like I said, clueless. 

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Total joke. Who decides if endangered species live in your wood? You shoot something and someone from a certain Right Royal Animl body gets notified and their guy declares no endangered species in your wood only the protected ones. What then? You potentially prosecuted. It's about as useful "reasonable force" is to self defence. All based on opinion.

Pity shooters can't call a national shooting strike and let food supplies and animal welfare suffer. That would soon make people realise the importance of pest control and managing the countryside.

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It’s getting silly I have never really kept records of the general vermin I have controlled, but I have controlled it for the right reasons as have most people, do we now have to send for these licenses, as I sent off last time when they revoked the general licenses, and I never even got an acknowledgment from natural England, mind you I think by that time they would have been a little overwhelmed, ?? 

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1 minute ago, 3175darren said:

It’s getting silly I have never really kept records of the general vermin I have controlled, but I have controlled it for the right reasons as have most people, do we now have to send for these licenses, as I sent off last time when they revoked the general licenses, and I never even got an acknowledgment from natural England, mind you I think by that time they would have been a little overwhelmed, ?? 

No mate , these are General licenses,  no need to apply just comply with the regulations. 

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On 11/11/2020 at 18:54, David.evans said:

Easy enough to print them off , and inwardly digest 

I'd rather have a warm sausage roll.

On 11/11/2020 at 18:54, David.evans said:

id say if you got pulled and could not answer some basic questions you could get fkd

Would they know any basic questions. ?   AND  would they understand any answers. 

On 11/11/2020 at 18:54, David.evans said:

   ●●●●●●  but do your really think that plod will know what’s entailed in  GL ●●●●●●

 

Don't forget to ask plod what his collar number is.

A :  I  don't actually believe that plod exist.  Well not in Kent anyway.  We couldn't even get them to come out when a building was broken into and thousands of pounds worth of equipment was stolen.  They just issued a crime number.

B : when .... I  have encountered a plod they honestly haven't known the difference between the blunt end and the pointy end. 

C : totally unprofessional.   The make it up as they go along and just try to blag it thorough. 

Saying all this I  have always printed off the gen license and carried it with me along with a copy of the written and my certs.  I've got it covered from all angles,  BUT no one has ever challenged  me or come out.  We don't make it easy for them and they would have to troop across a muddy field or two and we would have moved on further and submerged into the land.  I know the land and contours.  Members of the gen public have walked right by and one lot were standing in between the hide and the decoys. Looking at them and wondering why they hadn't  taken off.

Still don't  forget if you do get you balls caught in a rat trap over the GL.... basic will have your back and sort it out for you. Father Christmas just went past on his sleigh with the reindeer in  tow.

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I still love the "protect the nests of wild endagered birds with nest cages" bit.

So are we expected to walk around every farm and estate we shoot over with binocs, be general bird experts so we can identify the endagered lesser spooted sparrow and it's friends, spend weeks watching it until we can identify which tree in a forest it flies to and wherein that tree the nest is. Then we are going to climb the tree containing every endangered bird on every single estate with one hand with a cage in the other, and crawl to the end of branches 100ft+ above the ground on branches so thin they wouldn't hold an acorn to reach and cover some birds nest with a cage?

Wheres the H&S Risk Assessment for that? I know what mine would say - a survey of the site has revealed a substancial risk of falling from a great height. There's no way to reasonably alleviate the risk as ladders are considered high risk in oridinary circumstances and this activity requires extra long ladders, the top of which is to be placed against a round, uneven and potential slippery surface in the form of a tree trunk and this poses a substancial risk of the ladder top slipping and the employee falling. The uneven and soft ground found at the base of the tree poses a similar risk of ladder movement. The use of a board to allevaite this initself poses a risk of the base of the ladder slipping or even the whole board on the muddy mossy surface. Further the risk increases with height and this activity would require the use of the very longest ladders with many of these ladders still unable to reach the nests in any event. There's no way to attach a safety line and harness before the ascent begins. Scaffolding is disproprtionately expensive, and again subject to the dangers of uneven and soft ground at the base with the sinkage of feet or slippage of boards the scaffold is placed on. Even where that could be alleviated, the branches of the tree will prevent the building of the scaffold up to the height required. Climbing of the tree would be unsafe unless carried out by a tree climbing professional.  Even so, such an activity would still carry considerable risk to the climber and the risk and most importantly cost would be disproportionate to the activity. Conclusion This is an unsafe activity and engaging in it should be prohibited for all workers. The cost of bringing in outside specialist contractors is disporpotionately expensive and cannot be justified. Accordingly it is recommended that the activity be avoided to avoid injury and risk to workers and protection by other more reasonable, cost effective and safer means be employed.

BTW, I don't write H&S Assessments, never have done. That's just something I made up off the top. I don't recommend using it. It proves the point though when you work the risks through.

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