A bit of history

[Daniel cain 42,847]

Series on sky.. Medieval dead

[General lee 979]

Thank you I will have a look for it

[WILF 44,285]

Now lads, are we talking about the black Viking’s or the White Vikings ?

[Daniel cain 42,847]

18 minutes ago, WILF said:

Now lads, are we talking about the black Viking’s or the White Vikings ?

Ffs wilf.... Maxi pad will be along shortly to put us right

[THE STIFFMEISTER 14,558]

1 hour ago, Daniel cain said:

Ffs wilf.... Maxi pad will be along shortly to put us right

I wouldn’t bet on it , it’s that big derby today for Sunderland

[Lenmcharristar 9,176]

2 hours ago, WILF said:

Now lads, are we talking about the black Viking’s or the White Vikings ?

Lolol the white ones keep our history white and they can keep their black history

[BEARINATOR 2,825]

12 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

I wouldn’t bet on it , it’s that big derby today for Sunderland

Didn’t realise they were playing blyth spartans 

[jetro 5,349]

531 years ago today in 1484, Pope Innocent VIII issued a Papal Bull which officially recognised the reality of witchcraft by deputising the German Dominicans, Heinrich Kramer and Johann Sprenger, as inquisitors to destroy witchcraft by "just correction, imprisonment and punishment of any person, without let or hindrance." This signalled the beginning of the Inquisition's crusade against witchcraft, a crusade which would ultimately engulf the entire continent in flames. Hereafter it became a heresy to believe that witchcraft didn't exist, whereas before it was heresy to believe that there was such a thing. Unlike the Inquisition's previous victims such as the knights Templar, the Cathars, the Bogomils etc, the Witches did not pose a threat to the primacy of the Church. Two years after Kramer and Sprenger had been cited in the Bull, they published the Malleus Maleficarum, the Hammer of the Witches, arguably the most obscene piece of literature in Western Civilisation. It essentially constituted a do-it-yourself handbook not only for Inquisitors but for judges, priests and magistrates on how to suspect someone of witchcraft. The book delves into ludicrous notions of diabolic copulation between women and spirits whilst providing formulas for exorcisms. Within a couple of years the book would become the Bible of witch hunting as a frenzy of mass madness spread across Europe. In 1585 two German villages were so decimated that only one woman survived in each. A layer of black fat was known to have formed upon buildings from the amount of burnings. In the early 1600s, 900 people were burned alive by the Prince Bishop of Würzburg, 19 of them priests, one of them his nephew and a number of them children accused of sexual relations with demons. Such was the obsession of the Inquisition with Witchcraft that it was caught completely off guard by the arrival of Protestantism in the early 1500s. This thus marks the beginning of the Catholic Church's demise.

Toatly differant subject, but nuts all the same.

Atb j 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 14,558]

On 26/09/2020 at 10:38, Daniel cain said:

Watched an interesting documentary last night on the Galloglass of Ireland.... The last resort battalion of men in a battle.... The sas of their day

Some of the Wikipedia information is slightly wrong on them as well as being a gallowglass was a like acceptance into a culture , like the samurai I suppose . 
 

they were a warrior caste who were primarily used as heavy cavalry and huscarles. They were generally considered to be drawn from Scottish Gaelic clans from the world west coast but also from the novantae and brigante tribes of northern England . 
 

these tribes were so warlike and ferocious that the word “brigand”Is still used today to describe a violent outlaw type. 
 

I love things like this as it’s absolutely fascinating the history of our islands 

[Lenmcharristar 9,176]

38 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Some of the Wikipedia information is slightly wrong on them as well as being a gallowglass was a like acceptance into a culture , like the samurai I suppose . 
 

they were a warrior caste who were primarily used as heavy cavalry and huscarles. They were generally considered to be drawn from Scottish Gaelic clans from the world west coast but also from the novantae and brigante tribes of northern England . 
 

these tribes were so warlike and ferocious that the word “brigand”Is still used today to describe a violent outlaw type. 
 

I love things like this as it’s absolutely fascinating the history of our islands 

So thats why us northern irelanders are so hard and tough were just a breed of fighting peoples From these isles and Scandinavia, in the words from matt from game on we’re just double hard b*****ds

Edited September 27, 2020 by Lenmcharristar

[jetro 5,349]

On 25/09/2020 at 22:46, Francie said:

Brilliant that Jethro, do you know of the music in doc? 

Or were I could find out? 

I tried, and even got someone to help me find that soundtrack for you Francie, but couldn't, sorry. 

But I quite like this, maybe it could be close enough for you.

Atb j 

[jetro 5,349]

 

 

 

 

 

Vikings Weren’t All Scandinavian, Ancient DNA Study Shows

Sep 24, 2020 by News Staff / Source

 

In the popular imagination, Vikings were fearsome blonde-haired warriors from Scandinavia who used longboats to carry out raids across Europe in a brief but bloody reign of terror. But the reality is much more complex, according to an analysis of the genomes of 442 ancient humans from archaeological sites in Scandinavia, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, Estonia, Ukraine, Poland and other Eastern European countries.

The maritime expansion of Scandinavian populations during the Viking Age was a far-flung transformation in world history. Margaryan et al sequenced the genomes of 442 humans from archaeological sites across Europe and Greenland to understand the global influence of this expansion. Image credit: Henrietta Elizabeth Marshall.

The word Viking comes from the Scandinavian term ‘vikingr’ meaning ‘pirate.’

The Viking Age generally refers to the period from 800 CE, a few years after the earliest recorded raid, until the 1050s, a few years before the Norman Conquest of England in 1066.

The Vikings changed the political and genetic course of Europe and beyond: Cnut the Great became the King of England, Leif Eriksson is believed to have been the first European to reach North America — 500 years before Christopher Columbus — and Olaf Tryggvason is credited with taking Christianity to Norway.

Many expeditions involved raiding monasteries and cities along the coastal settlements of Europe but the goal of trading goods like fur, tusks and seal fat were often the more pragmatic aim.

“We didn’t know genetically what they actually looked like until now,” said lead author Professor Eske Willerslev, a researcher at the University of Cambridge and director of the University of Copenhagen’s Lundbeck Foundation GeoGenetics Centre.

“We found genetic differences between different Viking populations within Scandinavia which shows Viking groups in the region were far more isolated than previously believed.”

“Our research even debunks the modern image of Vikings with blonde hair as many had brown hair and were influenced by genetic influx from the outside of Scandinavia.”

Professor Willerslev and colleagues sequenced the whole genomes of 442 mostly Viking Age men, women, children and babies.

The researchers analyzed DNA from the remains from a boat burial in Estonia and discovered four Viking brothers died the same day.

They also revealed that male skeletons from a Viking burial site in Orkney, Scotland, were not actually genetically Vikings despite being buried with swords and other Viking memorabilia.

There wasn’t a word for Scandinavia during the Viking Age — that came later. But the study shows that the Vikings from what is now Norway traveled to Ireland, Scotland, Iceland and Greenland.

The Vikings from what is now Denmark traveled to England. And Vikings from what is now Sweden went to the Baltic countries on their all male ‘raiding parties.’

“We carried out the largest ever DNA analysis of Viking remains to explore how they fit into the genetic picture of ancient Europeans before the Viking Age,” said first author Dr. Ashot Margaryan, a researcher in the Section for Evolutionary Genomics in the Globe Institute at the University of Copenhagen.

“The results were startling and some answer long-standing historical questions and confirm previous assumptions that lacked evidence.”

“We determined that a Viking raiding party expedition included close family members as we discovered four brothers in one boat burial in Estonia who died the same day. The rest of the occupants of the boat were genetically similar suggesting that they all likely came from a small town or village somewhere in Sweden.”

The scientists also found genetically Pictish people ‘became’ Vikings without genetically mixing with Scandinavians.

The Picts were Celtic-speaking people who lived in what is today eastern and northern Scotland during the Late British Iron Age and Early Medieval periods.

“Scandinavian diasporas established trade and settlement stretching from the American continent to the Asian steppe,” said Professor Søren Sindbæk, an archaeologist at Moesgaard Museum.

“They exported ideas, technologies, language, beliefs and practices and developed new socio-political structures.”

“Importantly our results show that ‘Viking’ identity was not limited to people with Scandinavian genetic ancestry.”

The genetic legacy of the Viking Age lives on today with 6% of people of the UK population predicted to have Viking DNA in their genes compared to 10% in Sweden.

“The results change the perception of who a Viking actually was. The history books will need to be updated,” Professor Willerslev concluded.

 

 

 

Some interesting new discoveries, and new points made.

Atb j 

 

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[Greb147 6,808]

6 hours ago, jetro said:

 

 

 

 

 

Vikings Weren’t All Scandinavian, Ancient DNA Study Shows

Sep 24, 2020 by News Staff / Source

 

In the popular imagination, Vikings were fearsome blonde-haired warriors from Scandinavia who used longboats to carry out raids across Europe in a brief but bloody reign of terror. But the reality is much more complex, according to an analysis of the genomes of 442 ancient humans from archaeological sites in Scandinavia, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, Estonia, Ukraine, Poland and other Eastern European countries.

The maritime expansion of Scandinavian populations during the Viking Age was a far-flung transformation in world history. Margaryan et al sequenced the genomes of 442 humans from archaeological sites across Europe and Greenland to understand the global influence of this expansion. Image credit: Henrietta Elizabeth Marshall.

The word Viking comes from the Scandinavian term ‘vikingr’ meaning ‘pirate.’

The Viking Age generally refers to the period from 800 CE, a few years after the earliest recorded raid, until the 1050s, a few years before the Norman Conquest of England in 1066.

The Vikings changed the political and genetic course of Europe and beyond: Cnut the Great became the King of England, Leif Eriksson is believed to have been the first European to reach North America — 500 years before Christopher Columbus — and Olaf Tryggvason is credited with taking Christianity to Norway.

Many expeditions involved raiding monasteries and cities along the coastal settlements of Europe but the goal of trading goods like fur, tusks and seal fat were often the more pragmatic aim.

“We didn’t know genetically what they actually looked like until now,” said lead author Professor Eske Willerslev, a researcher at the University of Cambridge and director of the University of Copenhagen’s Lundbeck Foundation GeoGenetics Centre.

“We found genetic differences between different Viking populations within Scandinavia which shows Viking groups in the region were far more isolated than previously believed.”

“Our research even debunks the modern image of Vikings with blonde hair as many had brown hair and were influenced by genetic influx from the outside of Scandinavia.”

Professor Willerslev and colleagues sequenced the whole genomes of 442 mostly Viking Age men, women, children and babies.

The researchers analyzed DNA from the remains from a boat burial in Estonia and discovered four Viking brothers died the same day.

They also revealed that male skeletons from a Viking burial site in Orkney, Scotland, were not actually genetically Vikings despite being buried with swords and other Viking memorabilia.

There wasn’t a word for Scandinavia during the Viking Age — that came later. But the study shows that the Vikings from what is now Norway traveled to Ireland, Scotland, Iceland and Greenland.

The Vikings from what is now Denmark traveled to England. And Vikings from what is now Sweden went to the Baltic countries on their all male ‘raiding parties.’

“We carried out the largest ever DNA analysis of Viking remains to explore how they fit into the genetic picture of ancient Europeans before the Viking Age,” said first author Dr. Ashot Margaryan, a researcher in the Section for Evolutionary Genomics in the Globe Institute at the University of Copenhagen.

“The results were startling and some answer long-standing historical questions and confirm previous assumptions that lacked evidence.”

“We determined that a Viking raiding party expedition included close family members as we discovered four brothers in one boat burial in Estonia who died the same day. The rest of the occupants of the boat were genetically similar suggesting that they all likely came from a small town or village somewhere in Sweden.”

The scientists also found genetically Pictish people ‘became’ Vikings without genetically mixing with Scandinavians.

The Picts were Celtic-speaking people who lived in what is today eastern and northern Scotland during the Late British Iron Age and Early Medieval periods.

“Scandinavian diasporas established trade and settlement stretching from the American continent to the Asian steppe,” said Professor Søren Sindbæk, an archaeologist at Moesgaard Museum.

“They exported ideas, technologies, language, beliefs and practices and developed new socio-political structures.”

“Importantly our results show that ‘Viking’ identity was not limited to people with Scandinavian genetic ancestry.”

The genetic legacy of the Viking Age lives on today with 6% of people of the UK population predicted to have Viking DNA in their genes compared to 10% in Sweden.

“The results change the perception of who a Viking actually was. The history books will need to be updated,” Professor Willerslev concluded.

 

 

 

Some interesting new discoveries, and new points made.

Atb j 

 

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I'm honoured to be one of the 6% carrying Viking DNA in the UK, that much so I want to bang someone's wife while they watch and after bash their head in with a hammer....  

[forest of dean redneck 11,189]

3 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I'm honoured to be one of the 6% carrying Viking DNA in the UK, that much so I want to bang someone's wife while they watch and after bash their head in with a hammer....  

They call it dogging now