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Russian Viking Coins Unearthed by Lucky Detectorist in Ireland

It is not uncommon for ancient coins to be found in buried hoards around the world, but some discoveries are more unique than others, such as an unusual find of Russian Viking coins unearthed in Ireland. A metal detectorist discovered several very rare coins that date to the foundation of the Russian nation, over 1000 years ago. These silver and gold coins are important, in part because they are the first Russian Viking coins found in Ireland, and also because they are providing new insights into the medieval period.

The cache of coins was unearthed by metal detector enthusiast Robert Carley in Glanmire, near Cork City. The coins are small and stamped with Christian symbols and possibly images of monarchs. They date back to the 10th century. The Kievan or Kyivan Rus are regarded as the founders of the modern nation of Russia and they were originally Vikings who ruled a largely Slavic population. They built a massive state centered on Kiev in modern-day Ukraine and controlled huge swathes of central and northern Russia.

The Rurik Dynasty ruled the Kievan Rus state and they began minting their own coins during the reign of Vladimir the Great (c 958- 1015 AD). Gold and silver coins were produced, and they all had the same signs and images. Many of the coins they minted had the Tryzub (trident) symbol, which was adopted as one of the symbols of Ukraine after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Before Vladimir the Great, the Rus had used Arab and Byzantine currency or gold bars. The minting of their own money ‘was a political declaration of the country’s sovereignty and significance. The Viking coins are exceedingly rare and were probably used to pay traders and mercenaries. Whoever buried them in the ground never came back to retrieve his small treasure of coins, which are remarkably well-preserved. In the 10th and 11th century AD, Vikings had settled in Cork and turned it into a major trading center that was linked to the Scandinavian trading networks, which extended as far east as Kievan Rus. The Rus continued to have close relations with the Vikings.

These are high quality coins, which is not unusual. Often lower quality coins are found in the former lands of the Kyivan Rus and their better quality silver ones are found outside it. It appears that the ones with a higher purity of silver were used to pay foreign merchants and mercenaries. 

They sure got around, didn't they

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It was basically a battle between two brothers Harold and Tostig over who controlled England. They were both Vikings, sort of. As were the Normans - North Men who conquered the north west of France ab

Would have been some battle to witness  Wonder how things would be today if the vikings did win. Atb j 

Didn’t realise they were playing blyth spartans 

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18 minutes ago, Francie said:

Brilliant that Jethro, do you know of the music in doc? 

Or were I could find out? 

I searched a bit and can't find out who plays the music on it. Leave it with me, I might have better luck tomorrow 

Atb j 

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6 minutes ago, Francie said:

Yeah but they gave up there claim to ireland that day Jethro. 

Thats true. But left their mark. 

We did alright  till Dermot macmurrough invited them back in again in  1170

The treacherous snake

That's when irelands real troubles and downfall began

 

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Just now, jetro said:

Thats true. But left their mark. 

We did alright  till Dermot macmurrough invited them back in again in  1170

The treacherous snake

That's when irelands real troubles and downfall began

 

Atb j 

 

Don't know anything about that craic lad, any links? 

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Just now, Francie said:

Don't know anything about that craic lad, any links? 

He was a king in Leinster, got over thrown and exiled.  He went to England and asked for help from king Henry the second to win back his crown. Once the got their feet on irish soil, that was for us for 800 years. 

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Home » Ireland & the Irish » History of Ireland » Strongbow and the Normans: 1170 – 1536
Strongbow and the Normans: 1170 – 1536

Far from settling into peaceful coexistence following the defeat of the Vikings in the early 11th century, Irish Chieftains immediately engaged in a series of bloody battles in an effort to assert their authority and gain control of territory.

The Struggle to Rule Ireland
For 150 years there was continuous wars and unrest, with various chieftains coming to the fore, then receding again as they were defeated by neighboring kingdoms.

Eventually, by about 1150, four powerful clans had gained control of most of Ireland, the O’Neills in Ulster, the O’Briens in Munster (the family of Brian Boru), the O’Connors in Connaught and the McMurrough clan, led by Dermot McMurrough, who held Leinster.


 
When Rory O’Connor succeeded to leadership of Connacht he increasing began to extend his power into Munster, seizing territory from the O’Briens.

However McMurrough, who had the support of the O’Neills, remained dominant for some time, importantly retaining at least nominal control of Dublin, then as now by far the most important trading centre in Ireland.

In 1166 that changed suddenly with the assassination of the ruler of the O’Neills and a resultant power struggle in the North which left him without vital support.

O’Connor wasted no time, quickly taking first Dublin and then most of the rest of Leinster. McMurrough was defeated and left Ireland in 1167, leaving his arch rival as the generally recognised High King of Ireland.

The Making of Norman Ireland
For a short time there was relative peace in Ireland, but in England McMurrough was plotting his return. He sought the support of the King of England, Henry II, and of other powerful English allies, with promises of land and influence in return for their help.

He succeeded admirably and his main supporter was the powerful Richard de Clare, Earl of Pembroke, also known as Strongbow. In 1170 Strongbow arrived in Ireland with a skilled, well armed and professional army. With the addition of McMurrough’s still loyal supporters in Ireland made short work of reinstating McMurrough as King of Leinster.

The alliance was sealed when Strongbow married McMurrough’s daughter, Aoife, and was promised that he would succeed to the throne, which he did in May 1171. The painting above is a (fanciful) depiction of their wedding, painted by Danial Maclise in 1874.

None of this was exactly music to the ears of King Henry, who saw the rapid rise and increasing power of his once loyal subject Stongbow as both a threat and an affront to his authority. In August 1171 he arrived in a fleet of 400 ships with a huge well equipped army, the first time an English monarch had set foot on Irish soil.

Ever the pragmatist, Strongbow met the king on the way to Dublin and pledged renewed allegiance, enabling him to reach agreement with the king and retain his lands.

In the light of subsequent events, the reaction of the remaining Irish Kings, including Rory O’Connell whose status as High King of Ireland was by now nominal only, was ironic. They welcomed Henry, seeing him as an ally in curtailing Strongbow’s power, and were quick to come to agreements with him which saw their positions consolidated locally.

The Treaty of Windsor
By 1175 the Treaty of Windsor was in place, which made Henry overload of all territory already occupied by the Normans, mainly in Leinster, with most of the remainder held by the nominal High King of Ireland, Rory O’Connor, with the proviso that he swore loyalty to the crown and paid an annual levy. Strongbow held onto Leinster, albeit as subject of the King.

However no sooner was the treaty agreed than it began to fall apart.

Henry appointed Norman military commanders to enforce the treaty, awarding them land, and then, basically, left them to it. Before long they were enthusiastically engaged in expanding the lands they’d been given.

By 1178 they had effectively taken control of significant territory in the kingdoms of Munster and Connacht and under the leadership of John de Courcy were engaged in an attempted conquest of Ulster, in the North. This encroachment continued in ensuing years.

By the middle of the 13th century the Normans controlled most of Ireland and the once great clans had seen their influence wane and their territories broken up and considerably decreased in size.

While the Normans never succeeded in gaining as large a foothold in Ulster as in the rest of Ireland, though they did control the important East coast, ongoing fighting there saw the O’Neill clan lose their dominant position, with the non-Norman parts of the province broken up between as many as 12 other families.

Land Ownership & the Native Irish
Prior to the arrival of the Normans Irish land was generally held as commonage. While the chieftains controlled territory and expected those living there to contribute food and fighting men there was no real land ownership as we know it today. This all changed pretty rapidly. Not only did the Normans bring the concept of land ownership with them, they brought the belief that they now owned it.

Soon large numbers of Irish farmers were reduced to the status of tenants, paying rent and tithes to their Norman rulers in return for being permitted to continue to farm land they had occupied for centuries. This was a situation that would persist, even as the identity of the actual landlords changed, over hundreds of subsequent years, with sometimes horrifying consequences.

“More Irish than the Irish Themselves”


The Normans were skilled artisans who began almost immediately to establish themselves by building large and imposing castles, to defend the land they amassed.

Many of the famous castles of Ireland were built around this time and as commercial centres began to build up around them, some of Ireland’s largest towns were founded or developed beyond small settlements, from Kilkenny and Cahir in the south to Carrickfergus in the North.

Almost inevitably intermarriage with the Irish followed, which of course had the advantage of allowing them to marry into land and cement relationships with Irish landowners. The Irish benefited too, retaining land in their family and spreading the native language and traditional customs to their Norman allies.

Integration with the Irish developed to such an extent that a new ruling class emerged with dual Irish and Norman heritage, who were often referred to as being “more Irish than the Irish themselves“.

Ireland Beyond the Pale
Back in England the gradual adoption by the Normans of Irish dress, laws and language caused horror. Between 1295 and 1365 a series of 12 parliaments sat in Kilkenny and they were much occupied with stopping or even reversing this assimilation.

The final act of this parliament was to pass into law the “Statutes of Kilkenny“, a series of measures to curb further integration. The Norman Irish were forbidden to obey or recognise Irish law, to use the Irish language, to intermarry with the Irish or to give their children Irish names. The measures however were a complete failure, and although nominally still under English rule in reality large areas of Ireland operated independently of the crown.

By the end of the fifteenth century only the area around Dublin remained effectively under English control.

This area became known as “The Pale”, from the Latin ‘palus’ meaning fence or boundary, and indeed an attempt was made to literally fence off this part of Ireland from the rest of the country.

Within the Pale English Law and manners prevailed, beyond it the Norman Irish basically did as they pleased, which led to the modern usage of the term “beyond the pale” to describe unacceptable or uncontrollable behaviour.

Eventually of course the English would tolerate this situation no more, and that leads to the story of Ireland’s struggle to maintain its identity over the next 500 years.

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9 hours ago, jetro said:

Russian Viking Coins Unearthed by Lucky Detectorist in Ireland

It is not uncommon for ancient coins to be found in buried hoards around the world, but some discoveries are more unique than others, such as an unusual find of Russian Viking coins unearthed in Ireland. A metal detectorist discovered several very rare coins that date to the foundation of the Russian nation, over 1000 years ago. These silver and gold coins are important, in part because they are the first Russian Viking coins found in Ireland, and also because they are providing new insights into the medieval period.

The cache of coins was unearthed by metal detector enthusiast Robert Carley in Glanmire, near Cork City. The coins are small and stamped with Christian symbols and possibly images of monarchs. They date back to the 10th century. The Kievan or Kyivan Rus are regarded as the founders of the modern nation of Russia and they were originally Vikings who ruled a largely Slavic population. They built a massive state centered on Kiev in modern-day Ukraine and controlled huge swathes of central and northern Russia.

The Rurik Dynasty ruled the Kievan Rus state and they began minting their own coins during the reign of Vladimir the Great (c 958- 1015 AD). Gold and silver coins were produced, and they all had the same signs and images. Many of the coins they minted had the Tryzub (trident) symbol, which was adopted as one of the symbols of Ukraine after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Before Vladimir the Great, the Rus had used Arab and Byzantine currency or gold bars. The minting of their own money ‘was a political declaration of the country’s sovereignty and significance. The Viking coins are exceedingly rare and were probably used to pay traders and mercenaries. Whoever buried them in the ground never came back to retrieve his small treasure of coins, which are remarkably well-preserved. In the 10th and 11th century AD, Vikings had settled in Cork and turned it into a major trading center that was linked to the Scandinavian trading networks, which extended as far east as Kievan Rus. The Rus continued to have close relations with the Vikings.

These are high quality coins, which is not unusual. Often lower quality coins are found in the former lands of the Kyivan Rus and their better quality silver ones are found outside it. It appears that the ones with a higher purity of silver were used to pay foreign merchants and mercenaries. 

They sure got around, didn't they

Atb j 

There was a lot more travelling around than people think. The Vikings didn't just sail everywhere, they had land routes right through to India and China. Also, there were a lot of people walking or riding from countries like England, France and Germany to the Holy Land on pilgrimages.

There was a land deal signed in the 11th century near to where I used to live in Yorkshire that stipulated 1lb of cumin to be paid annually. At York Minster a local of Danish descent gave the Minster most of his land and possessions before setting off on a pilgrimage that he never returned from. One thing he gave was an ivory horn;

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The Horn of Ulph

It was likely made in the city of Amalfi in Southern Italy. The various plant and animal motifs on the Horn are similar to Babylonian carvings from the third millennium BC, and their animal-head tails are like those found in Syrian art of the ninth century BC. This represents cultural exchange the Mediterranean. The Horn could have travelled to England three ways: by an eastern route from Constantinople to Scandinavia through Russia; by a western route, brought by one of the Normans (descendants of the Vikings who had settled in Northern France) who invaded Southern Italy in 1017; or been traded overland.

Near to where I now live in France in 1981 someone found a  helmet hidden in a cave formerly used from the Bronze Age onwards to store food and wine. It had been hidden and undisturbed since the Middle Ages :

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Casque d'Agris

The Agris Helmet (French: Casque d'Agris) is a ceremonial Celtic helmet from c. 350 BC that was found in a cave near Agris, Charente, France, in 1981. It is a masterpiece of Celtic art, and would probably have been used for display rather than worn in battle. The helmet consists of an iron cap completely covered with bands of bronze. The bronze is in turn covered with unusually pure gold leaf, with embedded coral decorations attached using silver rivets. One of the cheek guards was also found and has similar materials and designs. The helmet is mostly decorated in early Celtic patterns but there are later Celtic motifs and signs of Etruscan or Greek influence. The quality of the gold indicates that the helmet may well have been made locally in the Atlantic region.

There was a lot more going on than we know about.

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One of the largest ever Viking sliver hauls  was found round here it included coins and treasures from all over the world (the cuerdale haul )which was found in the banks of the ribble which leads to the Irish sea another was in ribchester a important part of one find was the ribchester helmet I have permission on a farm that is often bothered by metal dectectors in one of them areas 

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26 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

Watched an interesting documentary last night on the Galloglass of Ireland.... The last resort battalion of men in a battle.... The sas of their day?

What was that called? I’m interested in the galloglass but don’t see much about them

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