TOMO 24,843 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 16 hours ago, maxhardcore said: Tyson Fury would beat them all ' past and present . If fit and healthy - mentally and physically he is the best heavyweight there has ever been. He would of even beat Ali. Just to good ' big and strong simple as that . Just to many couldn't eat humble pie and aknowledge it LOL. ..brilliant. ..you should do stand up 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 24,843 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 minute ago, maxhardcore said: 13 minutes ago, TOMO said: LOL. ..brilliant. ..you should do stand up You stuck for words mate...not like you..lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,607 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 I remember excitable idiots telling me Mike Tyson was the greatest heavyweight ever when he was bashing everyone about......." wait until his career is over then judge him " i would say to people...........these days i dont think many people put Mike Tyson in their top 10 ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 4,926 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Can’t be doing with all this ‘who’d have beaten who’ stuff.., always going to be conjecture with no end or winner in any debate. Funny seeing the Fury cheerleaders out telling us he’s the best of all time again. Fact is his achievements amount to a good technical performance against a good but ageing champion, and victory against a ‘champion’ every man and his dog reckoned would come unstuck against top level opposition. For me, victory over Joshua would cement his legacy as the best in his era though, but lets wait and see the fight first. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,814 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 There's every chance the fight won't even happen ; both have to win their next fights first and the arrange a venue with fury not being allowed to fight in the UK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmad riley 1,336 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 I like fury a lot always have but to say he is the best of all time is a bit strong. If he beats the rest he will go as one of the greats Ali was unbelievable imo the greatest of all time 3 times champion. Moved like a lightweight entertaining in and out of the ring. ( fury is entertaining and moves well) other all time greats joe Frazier, big George, iron mike, Holyfield, klitscho brothers Just to name a few. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmad riley 1,336 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: I remember excitable idiots telling me Mike Tyson was the greatest heavyweight ever when he was bashing everyone about......." wait until his career is over then judge him " i would say to people...........these days i dont think many people put Mike Tyson in their top 10 ! Tyson was an animal in his early fights which people only seem to remember. as his career went on he lost his flare and movement. Probably due to his life style if he kept on the straight and narrow he would of been unbeatable up until the end of his career. But he like drugs, drink and women too much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,607 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, dogmad riley said: I like fury a lot always have but to say he is the best of all time is a bit strong. If he beats the rest he will go as one of the greats Not pulling you up mate but why do people have this attitude of whoever shines in todays era has to go down as a great historically ? Todays is a piss poor era of heavyweights whats the logic in calling the best of a bad bunch " a great " When you do that it belittles names such as Jimmy Young,Jerry Quarry,Ron Lyle even Joe Bugner or going right back Harry Wills or Sam Langford.... simply because they boxed in eras that were too strong for them to win a world title. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmad riley 1,336 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Not pulling you up mate but why do people have this attitude of whoever shines in todays era has to go down as a great historically ? Todays is a piss poor era of heavyweights whats the logic in calling the best of a bad bunch " a great " When you do that it belittles names such as Jimmy Young,Jerry Quarry,Ron Lyle even Joe Bugner or going right back Harry Wills or Sam Langford.... simply because they boxed in eras that were too strong for them to win a world title. I agree with you about the state of the heavyweight division. fury will go down as a great of this generation. as an all time great like you put in an earlier post we can’t judge until his career is over. Think I jumped the gun about on my other post saying all time great 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odin 183 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, dogmad riley said: Tyson was an animal in his early fights which people only seem to remember. as his career went on he lost his flare and movement. Probably due to his life style if he kept on the straight and narrow he would of been unbeatable up until the end of his career. But he like drugs, drink and women too much Yep,I think that Tyson hit his peak at a young age,23ish?and it started to go downhill after that.right enough the drink a d drugs definitely got a hold of him but sadly exposed as a bit of a bully because when the going got tough (holyfield,douglas)etc,he didn't have an answer.unfortunately continued his career too long and in the end everyone was knocking him over 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,112 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, South hams hunter said: There's every chance the fight won't even happen ; both have to win their next fights first and the arrange a venue with fury not being allowed to fight in the UK Why can't fury fight in the uk? I don't follow it all as much as I used to, all the boxing politics etc has pissed me off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,465 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 I have learned that it's pointless having a discussion about Fury with a Fury fan as opposed to a boxing fan ,and yet there are people who I respect who rate him .....for me I will NEVER go along with this nonsense that he "moves well " he dosnt . Prancing about out of instance is not good footwork ,it's not even footwork ,it's just prancing ,over the years his other attributes have gone from fkn abysmal to ordinary ,if he wasn't 9 ft tall he would be lucky to fight for a British title . 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,112 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Astanley said: I have learned that it's pointless having a discussion about Fury with a Fury fan as opposed to a boxing fan ,and yet there are people who I respect who rate him .....for me I will NEVER go along with this nonsense that he "moves well " he dosnt . Prancing about out of instance is not good footwork ,it's not even footwork ,it's just prancing ,over the years his other attributes have gone from fkn abysmal to ordinary ,if he wasn't 9 ft tall he would be lucky to fight for a British title . Kin el stan, you're reading my mind! . Lol . And like you say, he improved enough, or changed trainer, to enable him to fight the right way to beat wilder in the 2nd fight. BUT, have a look at how lowly/poorly ranked ALL wilder's opponents were. f***ing dreadful. Fury is easily the best opponent he's ever faced, by a country mile. And don't take that as though I'm complimenting fury, rather it's highlighting how mediocre wilder is 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,112 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, South hams hunter said: There's every chance the fight won't even happen ; both have to win their next fights first and the arrange a venue with fury not being allowed to fight in the UK 19 minutes ago, shaaark said: Why can't fury fight in the uk? I don't follow it all as much as I used to, all the boxing politics etc has pissed me off It's ok, just read about it lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,814 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, Astanley said: I have learned that it's pointless having a discussion about Fury with a Fury fan as opposed to a boxing fan ,and yet there are people who I respect who rate him .....for me I will NEVER go along with this nonsense that he "moves well " he dosnt . Prancing about out of instance is not good footwork ,it's not even footwork ,it's just prancing ,over the years his other attributes have gone from fkn abysmal to ordinary ,if he wasn't 9 ft tall he would be lucky to fight for a British title . Spot on Stan, where would his movement got him if 4/5 inches shorter... Wouldn't imagine very far because he'd still be in range Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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