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On 21/07/2020 at 10:24, sandymere said:

You need new blood to bring the size down whilst ensuring good feet and stamina that are bred to be capable of catching hares on rough ground perhaps something like this might be your answer.

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There are a couple of rough coated studs in Spain that performed themselves and have produced performers in their litters. 

 

Be better of just getting one a these sandy look like a deerhound worked for generations were it legal plenty for the pot 

If you did put them into the deerhound you would definitely be heading in the right direction 

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 suppose with all type lurchers  there all need speed to catch there quarry, the only 2 breeds to give it is greyhounds and whippets, salukis and deerhounds only offer stamina, good feet .But   lot of people only use the 2 above breeds, as last resort , as they keep proven line bred lurchers doing well at there jobs, one type stands out to me is american and Oz staghounds , they breed true and very rarely  out cross to greyhounds , as there dogs seem to keep there pace, and dont lack wind for there quarry.Deff drop of greyhound or whippet  will put extra yard in for you , when its needed  though .:thumbs:

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15 minutes ago, bird said:

 suppose with all type lurchers  there all need speed to catch there quarry, the only 2 breeds to give it is greyhounds and whippets, salukis and deerhounds only offer stamina, good feet .But   lot of people only use the 2 above breeds, as last resort , as they keep proven line bred lurchers doing well at there jobs, one type stands out to me is american and Oz staghounds , they breed true and very rarely  out cross to greyhounds , as there dogs seem to keep there pace, and dont lack wind for there quarry.Deff drop of greyhound or whippet  will put extra yard in for you , when its needed  though .:thumbs:

Saluki offers more than stamina and good feet. I’ve actually saw plenty saluki lurchers with bad feet. They give a lurcher a running brain that no other cross has, they can predict what something will do & force it to go where it doesn’t want to. The stamina/recovery they give is brilliant but the running brain is what they really add for me. I wouldn’t have a dog without saluki in, but I wouldn’t have one with too much either.

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2 minutes ago, Shadow100 said:

Saluki offers more than stamina and good feet. I’ve actually saw plenty saluki lurchers with bad feet. They give a lurcher a running brain that no other cross has, they can predict what something will do & force it to go where it doesn’t want to. The stamina/recovery they give is brilliant but the running brain is what they really add for me. I wouldn’t have a dog without saluki in, but I wouldn’t have one with too much either.

well that fair enough then, i knew a bloke who had saluki x grey x collie x grey, big 27in dog good on day stuff , and do fox as well, had great feet, maybe that came from the collie then, as norm they have nice tight feet, suppose when you say hunting brain, you mean boxing a hare in etc , or holding back when to strike, my 2   1xs would , more Buck would bust a gut to grab is quarry quick, most times he catch ,  had strong prey drive , but i know what you mean using there brain  on there quarry with a saluki, and like most breeds nothing to much in there , that blokes dog had 1/4 that was plenty enough .

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53 minutes ago, Shadow100 said:

Saluki offers more than stamina and good feet. I’ve actually saw plenty saluki lurchers with bad feet. They give a lurcher a running brain that no other cross has, they can predict what something will do & force it to go where it doesn’t want to. The stamina/recovery they give is brilliant but the running brain is what they really add for me. I wouldn’t have a dog without saluki in, but I wouldn’t have one with too much either.

I’m not a saluki expert but own a dog who is 1/4 saluki about 1/8 collie the rest is grew. The saluki has definitely brought something Different. Yes he’s sulky but when he’s working the rocks on the hills or lamping he just seems to run clever. He hunts things pretty decent daytime too and will follow scent well. He will retrieve most things from long distances. He’s  been unlucky with injuries. Accidents when working rather than bad breeding. Like I say I’m no expert but the right saluki has to offer more than just stamina or good feet. 

 

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5 minutes ago, C.green said:

Find the saluki can give a dog abit of style but they aint the allrounder folks try to say they are especially nowadays.

That’s why I’ve not bred from him. He will Hunt and take most things but he wouldn’t do it all in style. I got him as a rabbit dog to start with and he didn’t really start on anything else until he was 3 or 4. He’s taken to hunting on the hills pretty well considering. Depends what folk want I suppose 

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5 minutes ago, white van man said:

That’s why I’ve not bred from him. He will Hunt and take most things but he wouldn’t do it all in style. I got him as a rabbit dog to start with and he didn’t really start on anything else until he was 3 or 4. He’s taken to hunting on the hills pretty well considering. Depends what folk want I suppose 

I had a dog related to your youngster took the dog everywhere never let me down but he didnt do everything how id seen/expected good dogs to do things. There was times when hed kill stuff in a quick sprint then go through stages of killing 2 fields away. That brain can make them do funny things. If you want a dog for bit of everything need that bull or collie and coursing dog to mix right in my opinion

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I've never had a dog with heavily saturated blood so wouldn't know this. 

The great Brian Plummer claimed many a times that the Saluki and heavily based Saluki lurchers were less prone to injuries due to their running style. 

Is their any truth in this or was it is typical hogwash. It does make sense as heavily saturated Greyhound types get knocked up easily. 

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3 hours ago, Greb147 said:

I've never had a dog with heavily saturated blood so wouldn't know this. 

The great Brian Plummer claimed many a times that the Saluki and heavily based Saluki lurchers were less prone to injuries due to their running style. 

Is their any truth in this or was it is typical hogwash. It does make sense as heavily saturated Greyhound types get knocked up easily. 

In my experience your first crosses are tough as old boots, but a lot of your line bred coursing stuff can be more fragile. I think reason for that is with the big name line bred stuff there’s been a lot of men bred off injury prone stuff to make a few quid rather than admit they’re no good. Whereas the home bred stuff you don’t get as much of that. That’s just my theory behind it could be way off.

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4 hours ago, Greb147 said:

I've never had a dog with heavily saturated blood so wouldn't know this. 

The great Brian Plummer claimed many a times that the Saluki and heavily based Saluki lurchers were less prone to injuries due to their running style. 

Is their any truth in this or was it is typical hogwash. It does make sense as heavily saturated Greyhound types get knocked up easily. 

Strange how plummber ran collie greyhounds an promoted and peddled the like but thought the saluki was the better option over greyhound wonder if he put himself in a trance like state to come up with that one 😂

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14 minutes ago, poxon said:

Strange how plummber ran collie greyhounds an promoted and peddled the like but thought the saluki was the better option over greyhound wonder if he put himself in a trance like state to come up with that one 😂

 I think plummer was a disciple of joseph goebbels. Another master of propaganda.

There are a couple on this site too. 👍

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