mackay 3,044 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 In no way am I trying to reduce the severity of the situation, but, a couple of points, and this from someone I know in the nhs. Every death is being attributed to covid 19, and this is certainly true in some cases in many others the virus is killing people who were going to or were dying of other things. In instances where the cause of death wasn't logged as covid 19 the records were changed to covid 19. A great many people have it or have had it and showed no symptoms and recovered. No one seems to know the amount of people treated in hospital and released. How about as well as the daily death toll we get the good news results as well, and I understand if they play down the situation people may react accordingly and possibly put themselves and others at risk. But a wee bit of hope in these shit times wouldn't go amiss, because from what I'm reading on social media and even on here the cost to life through mental health, physical health, suicide and even if rioting kicks off is going to far outweigh the virus deaths. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,191 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, mackay said: In no way am I trying to reduce the severity of the situation, but, a couple of points, and this from someone I know in the nhs. Every death is being attributed to covid 19, and this is certainly true in some cases in many others the virus is killing people who were going to or were dying of other things. In instances where the cause of death wasn't logged as covid 19 the records were changed to covid 19. A great many people have it or have had it and showed no symptoms and recovered. No one seems to know the amount of people treated in hospital and released. How about as well as the daily death toll we get the good news results as well, and I understand if they play down the situation people may react accordingly and possibly put themselves and others at risk. But a wee bit of hope in these shit times wouldn't go amiss, because from what I'm reading on social media and even on here the cost to life through mental health, physical health, suicide and even if rioting kicks off is going to far outweigh the virus deaths. My feelings are, you can’t ever rely on “facts” that you see released into the general media......they will either support your bias or reject it and none of it is checkable or is incredibly hard to check. Most people won’t be privy to the real inside information so you have to rely on what you actually know and your own common sense. My common sense tells me that shutting down the world is completely unprecedented and so there can’t be any question that this is very, very serious and we should be taking this seriously ! Believe what you see......not what you want to see. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 The ruc are out in force today handing out fines to anyone hasn't got a good reason to be out. What a f***ing joke that is, for instance, our borders not closed an there's folk flying in from China, Italy etc an not one f***ing check but I can't go out the door at safe distance. Ps the chinks are doing well selling medical supplies all round the world eh Something fishy going on. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 42,802 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just got off the phone to my Oldman.... Lost his best mukka Martin rip last night to it..... That's 3 folks I personally know who they say died from it, so far 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,376 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, Francie said: The ruc are out in force today handing out fines to anyone hasn't got a good reason to be out. What a f***ing joke that is, for instance, our borders not closed an there's folk flying in from China, Italy etc an not one f***ing check but I can't go out the door at safe distance. Ps the chinks are doing well selling medical supplies all round the world eh Something fishy going on. Psni .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Chid said: Psni .. Who 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,376 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, Francie said: Who Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepChaser 8,082 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, mackay said: In no way am I trying to reduce the severity of the situation, but, a couple of points, and this from someone I know in the nhs. Every death is being attributed to covid 19, and this is certainly true in some cases in many others the virus is killing people who were going to or were dying of other things. In instances where the cause of death wasn't logged as covid 19 the records were changed to covid 19. A great many people have it or have had it and showed no symptoms and recovered. No one seems to know the amount of people treated in hospital and released. How about as well as the daily death toll we get the good news results as well, and I understand if they play down the situation people may react accordingly and possibly put themselves and others at risk. But a wee bit of hope in these shit times wouldn't go amiss, because from what I'm reading on social media and even on here the cost to life through mental health, physical health, suicide and even if rioting kicks off is going to far outweigh the virus deaths. They publish the numbers recovered to mate. Closed cases are split into recovered and dead. They also record the number of current cases which are mild or critical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaff 3,414 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I take a look at this once a day as it's quite depressing really. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 18,530 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Use the same site Chaff. I know what you're saying mate, don't look good for the US seems out of control there. Cheers Arry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Spain looks to be the worst ....... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, socks said: Spain looks to be the worst ....... Arguably hit them harder and faster than anyone else. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaff 3,414 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 I hope the rinky dinks get some proper PPE to the NHS asap. Essential that they are fully protected against this covid they are now saying 2 to 4 weeks to peak. Let's hope they get the correct kit to our frontline NHS. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 18,530 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, socks said: Spain looks to be the worst ....... What I mean is the way US figures are climbing, been watch a while think they will over take every country in the rest of the world in short time. I wish them all the very best but to me it don't look good. Cheers Arry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odin 183 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Arry said: What I mean is the way US figures are climbing, been watch a while think they will over take every country in the rest of the world in short time. I wish them all the very best but to me it don't look good. Cheers Arry The death rate is low though compared to how many are infected but that could change Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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