NEWKID 26,166 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, Stoney100 said: I’ve had £20 on fury with @NEWKID but after his last fight against the swede where he looked wank and wilders last fight where Ortiz looked like he got shot I think it’s going to be me putting my hard earned in the charity pot lol 50/50 mate... Forget the politics etc...what's interesting is any of these can beat each other, you wouldnt put a solid bet on any of them It's all in the charity pot anyway.. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted December 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Interesting.......wonder if he will go back to Freddie roach? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stoney100 1,179 Posted December 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, NEWKID said: 50/50 mate... Forget the politics etc...what's interesting is any of these can beat each other, you wouldnt put a solid bet on any of them It's all in the charity pot anyway.. True mate, adds a bit of banter and bragging rights to tho lol but yeah ultimately the charity wins haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,166 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, Stoney100 said: True mate, adds a bit of banter and bragging rights to tho lol but yeah ultimately the charity wins haha Lol....oh yeah and that... Now I'm f****d on the football bragging rights!! Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, MickC said: You do know that Fury tried to fight Joshua in his first fight of his come back but Hearn point blank refused it ! I do agree that until they actually fight who knows how it plays out amongst the top 3 and I also agree that Joshua can not try and out box Fury if /when they ever do meet. Wilder and Fury are as good as signed up for February 22nd and Joshua has mandatorys to deal with in 2020 so an Undisputed fight will not be the earliest till 2021. But here's the thing,after Wilder v Fury fight there will be two Champs with every possible belt/title between them and a unification fight takes precedence of any other fights so if both Joshua and the Wilder/Fury winner did really want to face each other then that fight can be made anytime after there fight. Hearn will want Fury to win for plenty of reasons and that fight will be easier to make than if Wilder does beat Fury. Just a waiting game again unfortunately. That was tactical ; he didn't have anything to offer and knew hearn would say no. Yh he will deffo want fury over wilder as I can't see wilder risking his belt if he can help it ; it'll take hearn a decade to get that fight for aj Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Stoney100 said: Interesting.......wonder if he will go back to Freddie roach? Hardly surprising if they have split as Fury's father has been very vocal about Davison and getting shot of him.If this is true I hope he goes with Dom Ingle,he will get the best from Fury's slip and slick style. Roach is an excellent trainer but very offence focussed which is not ideal when Fury is facing Wilder next. Roach was pushing Fury to go for the stoppage in the first Wilder fight and as Fury is based over in America now it could well be Roach as new trainer . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, bird said: If they ever get it on, Aj will ko fury 100%,it OK the crap you keep giving on Fury, but the bottom line is he lacks proper power for a heavyweight, you fookin no that and anybody with a boxing brain knows that. Go on any boxers last fight, and Aj would deff finish fury mid round. Let's see what happens Feb 22nd with wilder vfury my money on wilder ko as said fury won't get up this time. Talk a bout Aj after after that.! Got to disagree there Ray going off last fights like you mention, Joshua trying to out box Fury would play right into Fury's hands and Joshua's team know that. Should Joshua and Fury ever meet Joshua would be forcing the fight as he knows Fury does not have one hit punch power and would fight completely different to how he fought in Ruiz rematch,plus on the other hand Fury is a much bigger,lot better boxer with ring craft and movement than Ruiz. Ruiz was crap in the rematch and could''nt change anything. Hughie Fury would have beat that Ruiz, which is funny because as soon as Joshua took the immediate rematch it was Peter Fury who said exactly what Joshua had to do in the rematch and tbf Joshua fought exactly like that and beat Ruiz. 100% agree what you say though regarding the Fury v Wilder rematch,everybody needs to see who triumphs in that fight first before anything else can be decided.I've never changed my mind since Fury announced his comeback so my neck is still on the line,Fury out points both Wilder and Joshua and Wilder brutally knocks Joshua out ! Edited December 15, 2019 by MickC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 hours ago, bird said: If they ever get it on, Aj will ko fury 100%,it OK the crap you keep giving on Fury, but the bottom line is he lacks proper power for a heavyweight, you fookin no that and anybody with a boxing brain knows that. Go on any boxers last fight, and Aj would deff finish fury mid round. Let's see what happens Feb 22nd with wilder vfury my money on wilder ko as said fury won't get up this time. Talk a bout Aj after after that.! Fury aint puncher like wilder thats for sure, neither is ruiz but he stopped aj, the only man who can beat fury imo is himself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,594 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, NEWSBOY said: Fury aint puncher like wilder thats for sure, neither is ruiz but he stopped aj, the only man who can beat fury imo is himself True mate, if you look at the 1st fightAj vRuiz, Aj wasn't knocked out etc, he just didn't take Ruiz serious enough, and paid the price deff. But people forget Aj punching power, I personally think it did him good to loose, he deff boxed alot better since that lose. Regards fury one fight Aj will deff win if they ever get it on. Wilder only got his punch OK flatten most heavy weights he the only real threat to Aj. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Aj can punch, but it makes no odds if he took ruiz serious of not, the effect of ruiz punches was there for all to see, 2nd fight aj did what he had to do but imo he dont look champion material. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 10,774 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 8 hours ago, maxhardcore said: I might pop back on over Christmas and hopefully a few of yous received some better fishing rods and bait Iv'e got you hooked deep oh gutless one ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, NEWSBOY said: Fury aint puncher like wilder thats for sure, neither is ruiz but he stopped aj, the only man who can beat fury imo is himself Joshua ain't no puncher like Wilder either. But it's all our own opinions until if they do actually all fight each other . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 41 minutes ago, MickC said: Joshua ain't no puncher like Wilder either. But it's all our own opinions until if they do actually all fight each other . It seems like wilder is the best 1 punch fighter in the division, wouldnt say aj far behind though, they will fight, money will bring them together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, NEWSBOY said: It seems like wilder is the best 1 punch fighter in the division, wouldnt say aj far behind though, they will fight, money will bring them together. Wilder head and shoulders above the rest in division,I would say Joshua has decent power,certainly above average but I can't remember the last time he knocked out an opponent ,usually it's a tko stoppage . Hoping as well money brings them all together . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Think wilder will get beat, power alone will only go so far, his boxing skills are poor, fury beat him in the first fight, way it goes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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