Nicepix 5,650 Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, sid g said: as a player / manager / coach / fan .. i`d want to win every trophy going i`d be in the dugout as a manager want to be on the field as a player .. klopps action imo go towards devaluing the fa cup if you want to make a stand pull out of the whole thing and dont go in it again ... i remember cloughie saying at forest he got pissed off if they lost the toss.. I understand what you are saying, but where does it end? We traditionally have the League Cup (in various incarnations), the FA Cup and the leagues. Add to that the European fixtures for those that qualify and the add-ons, Super Cup, World Club Championship and factor in any replays and extra-times. Then there are international commitments. More and more friendlies, each continent has its own competition like the Euros and then the World Cup. The FA, FIFA , television companies, sponsors and everybody else are flogging the game to death for their own ends, i.e. profit. And the FFP rules limit squad depth and shape squads by insisting on certain quotas of nationalities. I cannot blame Klopp or anybody else for taking a step out of the less important competitions and from a players, fans, owners and sponsors point of view, it is a necessary evil. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,528 Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 Think he said most of that in the heat of the moment? Cheers, D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,465 Posted January 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 Trying to see this from a subjective point of view without bias or being partisan I would say ....whatever you say Jurgen you fukin legend ! 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,163 Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, sid g said: so you dont think some of the first team want to win the fa cup ... ? if its a stand against the fa make it that dont dress it up if liverpool were in 7th place first team squad would be out playing the replay not taking a break ... They almost certainly want to win the FA cup but they want to win the league more 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,069 Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, WILF said: They almost certainly want to win the FA cup but they want to win the league more They've won the league mate.... they could still field the 2nd team with Klopp on the sidelines and should win, it is a stand of sorts against the FA (which I feel could be justified as there are far too many games played) but it is taking away from what is the our best cup competition... jesus we would have died as kids to walk out in an FA cup final.. I get the argument, but Klopp should be at the very least. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,163 Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, NEWKID said: They've won the league mate.... they could still field the 2nd team with Klopp on the sidelines and should win, it is a stand of sorts against the FA (which I feel could be justified as there are far too many games played) but it is taking away from what is the our best cup competition... jesus we would have died as kids to walk out in an FA cup final.. I get the argument, but Klopp should be at the very least. They have won it when the last games played and they are lifting the trophy mate, you know how it works better than most. We indeed would have given anything to play in an FA cup final but then again we wasn’t world and European champions, I’m actually really looking forward to seeing Liverpool’s U23 play with another bloke at the helm, it will be a good measure of what they have coming along and a showcase of what they have been developing in a game that matters. Are you worried just a little bit as a Utd fan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,069 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, WILF said: They have won it when the last games played and they are lifting the trophy mate, you know how it works better than most. We indeed would have given anything to play in an FA cup final but then again we wasn’t world and European champions, I’m actually really looking forward to seeing Liverpool’s U23 play with another bloke at the helm, it will be a good measure of what they have coming along and a showcase of what they have been developing in a game that matters. Are you worried just a little bit as a Utd fan You got me!! Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,570 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Its disrespectful to English football and English fans we all piss and moan about how commercialised the game has gone and how its not as good as back in our day but then give Klopp a pass because he,s a smashing fella ! I hope they're not charging spectators....imagine going to watch your favourite pop group live and they roll out a bunch of kids you've never heard of. Personally i think clubs should be punished if they dont try their very best to win every game they play....a manager not even going to his own clubs game is just arrogant beyond belief in my opinion. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,069 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Its disrespectful to English football and English fans we all piss and moan about how commercialised the game has gone and how its not as good as back in our day but then give Klopp a pass because he,s a smashing fella ! I hope they're not charging spectators....imagine going to watch your favourite pop group live and they roll out a bunch of kids you've never heard of. Personally i think clubs should be punished if they dont try their very best to win every game they play....a manager not even going to his own clubs game is just arrogant beyond belief in my opinion. When it was Ferguson he was the biggest c**t going... and I agreed, utd shouldn't have come out of the FA cup in favour of the World Club cup....but cause its Klopp and the nation love him it's ok to f**k off on holiday and let someone else take charge....nah...one rule for one, one rule for all in my book.... Liverpool woukdve given their right bollock to win the FA cup every other season for the last 30 years ....strange how a bit of success changes a club and its fans.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,528 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 If it's mid season break it shouldn't have been scheduled for that date in the first place. Cheers, D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,163 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 The FA cup is my favourite competition and always has been. But, top level football has become much bigger than the FA cup, sad but true I’m afraid......I totally get why Klopp is doing this and what’s more I make him right. Its down to the FA to invest and make it special again and keep it as a place where minnows can kill giants, tie it in with development programmes, use it as a showcase to show what the FA is putting back into the game, market it like that and it will matter to more people imho Its not a question of should the FA cup matter, they should be asking WHY it doesn’t matter to some clubs. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 They could start by making every match kick off at 3pm on a Saturday instead of spreading one round through half a week. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, NEWKID said: When it was Ferguson he was the biggest c**t going... and I agreed, utd shouldn't have come out of the FA cup in favour of the World Club cup....but cause its Klopp and the nation love him it's ok to f**k off on holiday and let someone else take charge....nah...one rule for one, one rule for all in my book.... Liverpool woukdve given their right bollock to win the FA cup every other season for the last 30 years ....strange how a bit of success changes a club and its fans.... I have never supported Liverpool. I admire them, but I don't support them. And while Klopp seems to get away with things that Miserable Mou' can't, my reasons for supporting his stance has been explained before. Somebody has to take a stand against the relentless fixture programs the top clubs face and it just happens to be him. If nothing is done then football at the top level will suffer. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,163 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, sid g said: if you need to make a stand pull out of any domestic cup comps dont make an half hearted effort chucking out res and youth teams .. Question, why shouldn’t these lads be given a chance to play in a major competition ? We should welcome getting to see young talent not get the hump because we can’t film Mo Salah on our phone.......jmho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,570 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, WILF said: The FA cup is my favourite competition and always has been. But, top level football has become much bigger than the FA cup, sad but true I’m afraid. Has top level football become bigger than the fans who have made it as big as it is ?....you just said yourself the Fa Cup has always been your favourite competition.....yet YOU dont matter. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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