Coursing dogs for all round lurcher work

[moonlighter 1,160]

I’ve always had coursing dogs until now, and they will hunt and kill almost anything. They hunt up too, but I’ve never had one that was a natural retriever though. 

[mighty celt 995]

Make great dogs for rabbits, hares ,deers will excell at most jobs,lamping,ferreting,great for watching up cover while terriers teagles are working it.have a cracking strike on  them,if foxes are your game id only go for a drop of sauki in the mix.some make great catch dogs just dont have the jaw power for the job,most dont like the sharp end.

[C.green 3,203]

95 per cent of coursing dogs will crack if run hard enough. But the blood is good mixed.

[two crows 3,342]

3 hours ago, C.green said:

95 per cent of coursing dogs will crack if run hard enough. But the blood is good mixed.

a decent dog man should not make nothing crack imo no its limits, everything has them.

[trigger2 3,100]

3 hours ago, C.green said:

95 per cent of coursing dogs will crack if run hard enough. But the blood is good mixed.

Same could be said about any dog though mate. Are they able to take the same hammer as a well bred lurcher do you think before they crack? I know all round work is asking something different of them to what they are specifically bred for

[C.green 3,203]

4 minutes ago, two crows said:

a decent dog man should not make nothing crack imo no its limits, everything has them.

Id call that carrying a dog. When you see what good dogs are capable of it sets a bar dont it. 

 

Ive seen a couple that i liked alot but very few and far between

[Havelightforcewilltravel 417]

14 minutes ago, trigger2 said:

Same could be said about any dog though mate. Are they able to take the same hammer as a well bred lurcher do you think before they crack? I know all round work is asking something different of them to what they are specifically bred for

The right 1s can take more hammer and not look like cracking no doubt about that once fit and conditioning correct they can take what you chuck at them.

[two crows 3,342]

2 hours ago, C.green said:

Id call that carrying a dog. When you see what good dogs are capable of it sets a bar dont it. 

 

Ive seen a couple that i liked alot but very few and far between

don't doubt you have seen a decent dog or two, I have and do own dogs that can only be described as top draw, don't meen you have to push them to breaking point though, just idiotic imho

[sandymere 8,260]

Will depend on what "all round lurcher work" means??

In general to me it would be a dog that can run the odd day time hare without being completely outmatched, take the odd fox or bigger deer as available and smaller deer, rabbits as a matter of course both on lamp and daytime, plus be able to find its own game/mooching. Others might  also add in working with ferrets and nets.

A decent coursing dog should be able to do all of the above if its decent much as a decent lurcher should.

You can sicken a general lurcher or courser by say using it for foxing etc night in night out but in the same vein you can do the same setting a strong bull cross on daytime hares day in day out as they are more specialist roles, although there are always exceptions, if you want a specialist get one. But if you want a general hunting companion the field is a bit more open and IMO coursing dogs have something to offer in their own right and as crosses.

[two crows 3,342]

14 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Will depend on what "all round lurcher work" means??

In general to me it would be a dog that can run the odd day time hare without being completely outmatched, take the odd fox or bigger deer as available and smaller deer, rabbits as a matter of course both on lamp and daytime, plus be able to find its own game/mooching. Others might  also add in working with ferrets and nets.

A decent coursing dog should be able to do all of the above if its decent much as a decent lurcher should.

You can sicken a general lurcher or courser by say using it for foxing etc night in night out but in the same vein you can do the same setting a strong bull cross on daytime hares day in day out as they are more specialist roles, although there are always exceptions, if you want a specialist get one. But if you want a general hunting companion the field is a bit more open and IMO coursing dogs have something to offer in their own right and as crosses.

your right there sandy fox and hare are specialist, when you start talking more than an odd one here and there, I had a little courser cross whippet that killed fox very well, just naturaly knew how, but would not do it all the time, be a moron to expect it to.

[billhardy 2,341]

15 hours ago, two crows said:

I had my own line bred stuff 70s/80s, then a pure, first crosses three quarters etc, but line bred to me just have a bit more about em, I would like to see a line bred crossed with a collie instead of a f1 collie grey I think they be better.

We bred a line bred with a mall knows and the two bitches retained are miles ahead than the collie  greys ,they love the sharp end of any teeth tons and tons of stamina ta the point these don't get tired,they have loads of hunt drive fa day work I be

ieve the added saluki blood made them a totally different level than most f1 type jukels the stamina and recovery are very very good .atb bill

[jukel123 6,570]

15 hours ago, two crows said:

open some eyes, I have lamped and mouched with pure sals first crosses and line bred, all take to any task given chance, I have started some lamping as older dogs and pick it up quick enough, my curent one lamps ok I just do it to give her a bit more work, but I used to lamp a lot years ago. just to add start daytime first, then lamp.

Folk get into their heads that certain breeds are only capable of certain jobs. It's not the dog's fault if it's only used for certain tasks...... it's the bloke holding the collar and lead. Most dogs are more adaptable and versatile than people think if you give them the opportunity and think outside of the box.

As an example I had a GSD which would lamp all night, flush and retrieve to the gun, track anything wounded, guard the house, play gently with the kids and was gifted at seizing small dogs by the scruff and launch them 6 ft into the air.

[billhardy 2,341]

35 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Folk get into their heads that certain breeds are only capable of certain jobs. It's not the dog's fault if it's only used for certain tasks...... it's the bloke holding the collar and lead. Most dogs are more adaptable and versatile than people think if you give them the opportunity and think outside of the box.

As an example I had a GSD which would lamp all night, flush and retrieve to the gun, track anything wounded, guard the house, play gently with the kids and was gifted at seizing small dogs by the scruff and launch them 6 ft into the air.

I had a alsation grey had same habit any dog showing any form of aggression would get run down the end scenario thrown in midair  he threw a large Norfolk one day up the side of a oak tree was never the same again he started this habit at about ten mths ,this was enough ta take the stink out of  the aggressor ,just a trait bred in the most loyal kind soft temp around kids and the home the protective gene stood in the xs and still does three generations on .atb bill

[forest of dean redneck 11,183]

My little black alsation x grey took a pure alsation bitch by the scruff and wiped the floor clean over a disagreement at feeding time once  ,

i was surprised as the pure was a old fashioned flat backed sort a lot bigger and stronger I thought than she was. 

[shaaark 10,109]

12 minutes ago, forest of dean redneck said:

My little black alsation x grey took a pure alsation bitch by the scruff and wiped the floor clean over a disagreement at feeding time once  ,

i was surprised as the pure was a old fashioned flat backed sort a lot bigger and stronger I thought than she was. 

Were you 'forest' on colliecurs fdr?