Born Hunter 17,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 I’ve posted updates on this over the years. Here’s some more for those interested... 9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) That thrust vectoring nozzle makes it look like something straight out of Transformers! Edited October 15, 2019 by Born Hunter 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Rusty_terrier said: How do planes going as fast manage to stop on the short ru ways on those things ? they drop a hook and it catch's on a steel wire rusty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 great video this..iv'e seen it a good few times.. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Born Hunter 17,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said: How do planes going as fast manage to stop on the short runways on those things ? The UK carriers are designed for Short Take Off and Vertical Landing (STOVL) aircraft. Like the Harriers of old. They are able to direct their thrust downward to give lift, reducing the need for forward speed and therefore runway space needed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 The Welsh lads should recognise the red dragon on each side of HMS Dragon's bow. A ship strongly affiliated with Wales and providing air defence to the carrier in the pics. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: The UK carriers are designed for Short Take Off and Vertical Landing (STOVL) aircraft. Like the Harriers of old. They are able to direct their thrust downward to give lift, reducing the need for forward speed and therefore runway space needed. i thought the harrier's were fazed out BH.some feat of engineering them.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, king said: i thought the harrier's were fazed out BH.some feat of engineering them.. They were in the UK military. I think the USMC and Italians still operate them. The F-35B is a 'jump-jet' like them though. There is endless controversy over the Government's decision to have STOVL carriers rather than conventional CATOBAR ones. But it's what we have now and given our history with the Harrier fleet, it's sorta "what us Brits do!". Edited October 15, 2019 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Born Hunter said: They were in the UK military. I think the USMC and Italians still operate them. The F-35B is a 'jump-jet' like them though. There is endless controversy over the Government's decision to have STOVL carriers rather than conventional CATOBAR ones, but it's what we have and with our history with the Harrier fleet, it's sorta what we Brits 'do'. ah right i thought only the harrier's flew like that and have all been fazed out.. that's some amazing job flying a jet fighter.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,619 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 bit of a step up from the days of the buccaners and phantoms they had on the ark years ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: They were in the UK military. I think the USMC and Italians still operate them. The F-35B is a 'jump-jet' like them though. There is endless controversy over the Government's decision to have STOVL carriers rather than conventional CATOBAR ones. But it's what we have now and given our history with the Harrier fleet, it's sorta "what us Brits do!". i seen this a while back 462mph model jet.sound's amazing going past.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, riohog said: bit of a step up from the days of the buccaners and phantoms they had on the ark years ago Indeed. Automation and networking is the future. For instance those 70'000 ton carriers, will be manned by just 700 crew (ships company) as a result of comprehensive automation. Compared with the French Charles de Gaulle, 42'000 ton carrier, 1350. I've read that as few as two F-35s can provide the command and control capability that an AWACS traditionally would! All assets are becoming more integrated so the sensors on one can direct the weapons of another. Future developments will be largely in these areas I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,619 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: Indeed. Automation and networking is the future. For instance those 70'000 ton carriers, will be manned by just 700 crew (ships company) as a result of comprehensive automation. Compared with the French Charles de Gaulle, 42'000 ton carrier, 1350. I've read that as few as two F-35s can provide the command and control capability that an AWACS traditionally would! All assets are becoming more integrated so the sensors on one can direct the weapons of another. Future developments will be largely in these areas I think. i remember years ago the nimitz anchored off spit head with marines on board compliment was 1500 men ,thats alot of men to go down to davy jones locker if it ever got hit!!!. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,610 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, riohog said: i remember years ago the nimitz anchored off spit head with marines on board compliment was 1500 men ,thats alot of men to go down to davy jones locker if it ever got hit!!!. Don't those 100'000 ton US supercarriers have like 5000+ crew aboard, including aircrew etc? Mental! Yes, it is mate. Although many powers around the world are looking to acquire their own carriers the Russian and Chinese 'carrier killer' missiles might really change Naval doctrine re the use of carriers. It's an interesting and somewhat concerning arms race. Edited October 15, 2019 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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