Fell types

[shaaark 10,112]

19 hours ago, EDDIE B said:

The Patterdale, also known as a black Fell, comes in rough and smooth. It never has that border look to it.

 

Just saying like

Plenty down my way in south wales 30 odd years ago, looked almost pure border, but black. 

A mate of mine has one now border/patterdale, but fawn/red lol

[shaaark 10,112]

8 minutes ago, baker boy said:

1st terrier i owned for digging was a black terrier that looked about 90% Border

Yep, quite a few of those black border/fell/lakeland types around then. Don't think anyone cared too much really what they were exactly. See the odd one or two similar to that around nowadays, when driving through different villages in the valleys

Edited October 7, 2019 by shaaark

[EDDIE B 3,120]

3 hours ago, shaaark said:

Plenty down my way in south wales 30 odd years ago, looked almost pure border, but black. 

A mate of mine has one now border/patterdale, but fawn/red lol

Strange there aint much sign of that border in black dogs today. Maybe other traits pushed through after a couple of crosses. What we dug too years ago must have been mutts lol. No traits of border blood in them.

[shaaark 10,112]

1 minute ago, EDDIE B said:

Strange there aint much sign of that border in black dogs today. Maybe other traits pushed through after a couple of crosses. What we dug too years ago must have been mutts lol. No traits of border blood in them.

Dunno mate, they were just called border/lakelands by alot of the terrier men at the time , whether they were black, black and tan, red or grizzle

[EDDIE B 3,120]

2 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Dunno mate, they were just called border/lakelands by alot of the terrier men at the time , whether they were black, black and tan, red or grizzle

Yea, I think that is why these days, a lot see Fell types as mere cross breeds more so than an actual type.

[shaaark 10,112]

3 minutes ago, EDDIE B said:

Yea, I think that is why these days, a lot see Fell types as mere cross breeds more so than an actual type.

Could be mate. But if you go back far enough, weren't they all called 'fell terriers'? 

I don't keep terriers, and only tagged along a few times with a few terriermen years ago. Decided it wasn't really for me years ago, even though I like, and have an interest in terriers

[Rabbit Hunter 6,608]

When I think of a typical ‘Patterdale’, I imagine the Nuttall type terriers, black, smooth, white blaze etc. The rough haired choc and black dogs you see are like a different breed when compared I think and look more of a ‘Fell’ type.

[king 11,664]

A little piece in an old dog book I've got.first published in 1948 

It's part of the Lakeland terrier section..

 

 

[king 11,664]

Right here's the whole section...

[longers01 2,319]

Best terrier I’ve ever owned was a Black and Tan rough haired bitch what young traveller who i got her said she was a border Lakeland used to pass travelers site most days she was locked in a old escort estate with all the young kids teasing her offering the young traveler lad a ounce of resin for her wouldn’t sell her for weeks then one day past and he said u still interested in that dog i said let her out lets have a look at her picked her up she just locked on my jacket next day took him is resin and i tell u what that bitch was the best digging dog I’ve ever owned loved me to bits she was only about 2 years old when i got her and lived till 17 atb longers01 

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[longers01 2,319]

Here’s a dog I’m working at the minute parks breed Lakeland to a patterdale dog does me proud this dog hunts like a hound and loves holes haven’t done a lot with him for a couple of seasons but he’s born to hunt this dog 

[da slayer 204]

On 07/10/2019 at 23:19, longers01 said:

Here’s a dog I’m working at the minute parks breed Lakeland to a patterdale dog does me proud this dog hunts like a hound and loves holes haven’t done a lot with him for a couple of seasons but he’s born to hunt this dog 

 

On 07/10/2019 at 23:19, longers01 said:

Here’s a dog I’m working at the minute parks breed Lakeland to a patterdale dog does me proud this dog hunts like a hound and loves holes haven’t done a lot with him for a couple of seasons but he’s born to hunt this dog 

black dog is the brother to your dog an the tan dog is the son of the black dog mate,

 

Edited October 15, 2019 by da slayer
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[rob284 1,678]

My wee dog, what I’d call a fell type or a patterdale. Bays away steady.

[Keaner 97]

Looks similar to my old bitch