Nicepix 5,650 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, dogmandont said: Your probably 100% right greyman but I’d of thought if a poacher got himself a bit of a vantage point like the man in the photo up the tree then he could pretty much do away with all them dogs in one sitting. Do a lot of these poachers not be armed with AKs? Pump action Remmy with five loads of AAA or SSG would be my weapon if choice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dinosaurs 2,002 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Good read that hope they go from strength to strength & nail a lot of poachers. Anything thats helps the conservation of rhinos elephants etc can only be a good thing . Atb 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robertb123 372 Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 6 hours ago, wilbur foxhound said: They should be good at hunting them I mean dogs like chocolate don’t they Well they are coonhounds! Good article that, though the bit about the dogs being trained to be less aggressive puzzled me as for the South Africans I know the sharper the dog the better! Has H&S found it's way to the Kruger? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,610 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Quote ivan.carter So proud of the free running hounds @wildlifecollege arrested another two poachers yesterday and seized the gun they were using - since we got them to Aftica from Texas in June this solution has been spectacular and has led to the arrest of well over 60 poachers and the best part is that most commonly they are arrested BEFORE they kill a #rhino - operating on Kruger where the largest remaining free range population of rhino exist the future of our rhinos is that little more secure thanks to this solution and the great people who deploy it #itsworthsaving #houndsofinstagram #antipoaching #rhino Quote ivan.carter HOW MANY POACHERS DO YOU CATCH TODAY ??! - Ready to run ! That’s our free running pack dogs ! Having caught over 60 poachers and confiscated 25 firearms these dogs have had a 70% success rate in the last three months - so proud to partner with the @wildlifecollege in this project and thank you to all the supporters who have allowed us to bring this dream to reality #itsworthsaving #conservation #antipoaching I also read that they are training one bitch hound, Ruby, to find the orphaned rhino calves after a mother has been killed, so they can save it and rehabilitate it for release as an adult. It's really good stuff, proper conservation. Edited September 17, 2019 by Born Hunter 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,610 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 This is the lion relocation to Mozambique I mentioned. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2019/05/mozambique-spirit-lion-relocation/ Hunting conservation! Largest lion reintroduction ever, not funded by plastic conservationists on social media or even photo safari tourism! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,581 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 16/09/2019 at 21:10, Nicepix said: Pump action Remmy with five loads of AAA or SSG would be my weapon if choice. ye i was thinking the same , as soon as the dog or dogs are close by, he just swing round with the gun they drop the rhino with i might be wrong here but the only hound breed that are naturally man aggressive are the (Fila ) there banned over here in the UK. There big powerful dogs , bloodhound x mastiff of very old lines , ok like any dog they soon get shot as we said, but i reckon they deff go in quick on any man , say 5-6 dogs 27 in 110lb hitting you quick , you be in big trouble. i did think i saw one about 9 year ago, by where i used to live. it was fawn colour , just like big blood hound , the bloke had it on long lead, never came to close to me with bryn, he said it was mastiff x lab, bloody nasty thing it was. it had longer ears than any lab or mastiff i ever seen, said he got it from London , it looked like a Fila to me any way , wouldn't want it chasing me anyway . lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,352 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 There's a Fila near me and it is massive. Friendly enough but I wouldn't fuuck with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,581 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 hours ago, mushroom said: There's a Fila near me and it is massive. Friendly enough but I wouldn't fuuck with it. yeh mush, not dogs to mess with, i read on the web, that man aggression , part of the dogs temp, and they breed for it . that thing i saw looked dangerous, was bad enough me having colliexkelpie x grey bitch , she ws only 50lb 23 in, bloody strong as well, but would bite a ny fecker if they came to close to me , i was on edge all the while deff no good mate , somthing big as them a fila be nightmare , prob why they banned over here, having soft dogs like ive got make you release how lucky i am more so big dog like Buck is glad he wimp lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wilbur foxhound 480 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 How do the dogs no what person is or isn’t the poacher,wf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, wilbur foxhound said: How do the dogs no what person is or isn’t the poacher,wf If their carrying horns or tusks their fair game ...... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 16/09/2019 at 21:10, Nicepix said: Pump action Remmy with five loads of AAA or SSG would be my weapon if choice. They aint that fecking smart, thankfully..! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,610 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, wilbur foxhound said: How do the dogs no what person is or isn’t the poacher,wf I suspect they're slipped on an active poaching event, rather than just loosed randomly everyday. Also this is in the bush, I doubt there should be anyone kicking around unless up to no good. Finally, it's Africa.... not health and safety mad Britain! LOL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,610 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Talking of guns, I've done a bit of research. Seems 90% of the poachers in the Kruger are using CZ bolt action rifles in either .375 or .416. These have been smuggled in as part of a huge organised crime operation specifically to equip poachers! Given these have a slow rate of fire, limited capacity, limited range and heavy recoil even in the best circumstance it's not the best defensive weapon against a pack of hounds. Purely speculation now but I'd imagine two or three couple of those hounds flying through the bush with intent to do harm gives next to f**k all opportunity to defend yourself with your weapon. It's a case of get up the nearest tree asap, and for that both hands are usually required. Then the armed cavalry (helo and bikes) rock up to back the hounds up and end things. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 54 minutes ago, wilbur foxhound said: How do the dogs no what person is or isn’t the poacher,wf Basically anybody in front of the dog's handler is fair game. They just have to make only the bad guys are in front of them. It can go wrong. This is a few years old now, but it gives you some idea of the power of a 30kg dog... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elchapo 3,060 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nicepix said: Basically anybody in front of the dog's handler is fair game. They just have to make only the bad guys are in front of them. It can go wrong. This is a few years old now, but it gives you some idea of the power of a 30kg dog... 50 seconds in a dog grabs its own handlers hand Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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