billhardy 2,341 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Don’t he pick his runs tho? Not that I know katchum but the jukels style of running would suggest not do e good bags on fast land very capable on the ferritin seems his owner don't own a fert. Lol that Bryn was a very quick f1 collie grey that's fa sure.worked well say and night. Best ask ray if he chosd his runs I doubt it. Atb bill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Them saturated collie greys wo t catch cronies down here in the winter in numbers plus the man's a ferritin man looking fa a stud that his where I would go I would use a jukel that can catch e. Anywhere day and night Bryn just happens ta be a collie grey first generation. Atb bill Quote Link to post
poxon 5,527 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 39 minutes ago, shaaark said: All collie x's do don't they? So I’ve heard didn’t have no trouble with mine I’m guessing it’s more a heavy collie base thing that makes them pick an choosers or old age being clever and wise Quote Link to post
bird 9,583 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, billhardy said: Not that I know katchum but the jukels style of running would suggest not do e good bags on fast land very capable on the ferritin seems his owner don't own a fert. Lol that Bryn was a very quick f1 collie grey that's fa sure.worked well say and night. Best ask ray if he chosd his runs I doubt it. Atb bill suppose , its how you look at it really, i had fair few 30s in a night with old Bryn , what he was like say the 1st 17-19 runs he norm catch quick, he had great strike on him so didnt burn out to quick . but say hitting round 30 mark, and started to slow bit, he wouldn't push him self then, so i pack up with 30 rabbits , ok not alot what some lads get, but enough for me .Now my big dog Buck will push him self alot harder than bryn ever done he could hit 45 if he was fit , had 39 when not really fit , no mean feat for a 90lb dog that . if i wanted a colliex , i get colliex grey x beddy x grey , or collie x grey x whippet x grey , old bryn was very fast for a 1x collie x grey deff, he 12 now, still ok for his age, i often wonder how long he go on for , the old bangs and bumps coming through now , 10 years of lamping suppose . 1 Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,405 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 8 hours ago, billhardy said: Them saturated collie greys wo t catch cronies down here in the winter in numbers plus the man's a ferritin man looking fa a stud that his where I would go I would use a jukel that can catch e. Anywhere day and night Bryn just happens ta be a collie grey first generation. Atb bill you been licking toads again bill, you start off saying he should have half base blood the dam will add enough pace...then its a F1...then collie saturated dogs won't catch round yours in winter 1 4 Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 39 minutes ago, Gilbey said: you been licking toads again bill, you start off saying he should have half base blood the dam will add enough pace...then its a F1...then collie saturated dogs won't catch round yours in winter You misunderstood me what I saying if yas wa t ta keep has much speed has possible use a fast collie grey simple all the collie attributes plus he gonna help retain the speed in the welps Bryn his ill aY it again or was a on par with. Whippet grey. Fa speed sharpness. Hence ya stacking yaodds in favour in that much desired eRly pace the lad wNts and needs at timeswhen ferritin fast ground a k ows what I on about spent forty yrs plus ferritin ta jukels and tried the lot all sorts base ta whippet greys fast base breds or the chance that some plodder or middle distance types are produced even very fast generation types grews can produce some not fast enough the nans looking fa a top quality runner on coneys stack the odds in ya favour rays said enough. On Bryn. Atb bill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, billhardy said: You misunderstood me what I saying if yas wa t ta keep has much speed has possible use a fast collie grey simple all the collie attributes plus he gonna help retain the speed in the welps Bryn his ill aY it again or was a on par with. Whippet grey. Fa speed sharpness. Hence ya stacking yaodds in favour in that much desired eRly pace the lad wNts and needs at timeswhen ferritin fast ground a k ows what I on about spent forty yrs plus ferritin ta jukels and tried the lot all sorts base ta whippet greys fast base breds or the chance that some plodder or middle distance types are produced even very fast generation types grews can produce some not fast enough the nans looking fa a top quality runner on coneys stack the odds in ya favour rays said enough. On Bryn. Atb bill Gilbey base blood his the ta me the herder terrier part of the combination the lurcher part of this mating needs als to have pace some will follow the bitch some the dog and with luck some with abit of both choosing that welp at a free weeks old we'll ill say no more. Stack the odds in favour of retaining the speed to atb bill Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,405 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 11 hours ago, billhardy said: Trev I got a feel for yas back aways I went through a good few in a de ade breaking them. Cruciares Road accidentet etc I believe a d say this one half of your next jukel needs ta be base bred. The grew will add plenty early pace ya have a chance then. Atb bill here. very much doubt the man needs help choosing his future dogs.. 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,002 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 I never understood why birds dog bryn was never used as a stud was a fine example for a first cross is dan a full collie john ? Quote Link to post
Trev70 5,185 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, billhardy said: You misunderstood me what I saying if yas wa t ta keep has much speed has possible use a fast collie grey simple all the collie attributes plus he gonna help retain the speed in the welps Bryn his ill aY it again or was a on par with. Whippet grey. Fa speed sharpness. Hence ya stacking yaodds in favour in that much desired eRly pace the lad wNts and needs at timeswhen ferritin fast ground a k ows what I on about spent forty yrs plus ferritin ta jukels and tried the lot all sorts base ta whippet greys fast base breds or the chance that some plodder or middle distance types are produced even very fast generation types grews can produce some not fast enough the nans looking fa a top quality runner on coneys stack the odds in ya favour rays said enough. On Bryn. Atb bill Cheers bill , I’ve got a ten month old first cross at the min and I like what I’m seeing at the min for the kind of work that I do, atb. 2 Quote Link to post
bird 9,583 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, nothernlite said: I never understood why birds dog bryn was never used as a stud was a fine example for a first cross is dan a full collie john ? same here mate, fook knows why ? there was few from off here seen old bryn knock over 30 a night , jim from darby, trigger, doga , few who dont use websites ,good 7 blokes who dont really know each other. me self ive never really been keen on the collie temp, it was this put me off this type x, in the field bryn would get good bag of rabbits for you, he was never a fox dog, he ad the odd munjack if bumped into one but thats it . my big dog Buck would do the things bryn wouldn't simple as that,(both) are very sensitive type dogs bit to much for me if i am honest dont like to see it in any type dog big or small . over the 12 years i had lot of interest with people on here to use him, but only one bloke made the effort to try to use him, didnt get a matting as the bitch was maiden bitch , and playing up growing snapping etc , was enough to put bryn off, as say to fookin sensitive , and it was his 1st crack at it . think back then put him back to beddy x grey you had crackin lurchers , but history now mate , these 2 lurchers prob be my last ones , prob just get heinz 57 when bryn gone , as i am old and fooked now had 30 years at it . 5 Quote Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted September 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, nothernlite said: I never understood why birds dog bryn was never used as a stud was a fine example for a first cross is dan a full collie john ? Why ask a silly question pal you’ve read and replied to my posts on here and my Collie Curs post on Moochers, you well know he’s a genuine well bred and fine example of a Collie Greyhound, Bill we will have to agree to disagree with your views on Collie Greyhounds. Regards Collie John. 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,002 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, colliejohn said: Why ask a silly question pal you’ve read and replied to my posts on here and my Collie Curs post on Moochers, you well know he’s a genuine well bred and fine example of a Collie Greyhound, Bill we will have to agree to disagree with your views on Collie Greyhounds. Regards Collie John. Thanks for the reply Edited September 6, 2019 by nothernlite Quote Link to post
poxon 5,527 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, bird said: same here mate, fook knows why ? there was few from off here seen old bryn knock over 30 a night , jim from darby, trigger, doga , few who dont use websites ,good 7 blokes who dont really know each other. me self ive never really been keen on the collie temp, it was this put me off this type x, in the field bryn would get good bag of rabbits for you, he was never a fox dog, he ad the odd munjack if bumped into one but thats it . my big dog Buck would do the things bryn wouldn't simple as that,(both) are very sensitive type dogs bit to much for me if i am honest dont like to see it in any type dog big or small . over the 12 years i had lot of interest with people on here to use him, but only one bloke made the effort to try to use him, didnt get a matting as the bitch was maiden bitch , and playing up growing snapping etc , was enough to put bryn off, as say to fookin sensitive , and it was his 1st crack at it . think back then put him back to beddy x grey you had crackin lurchers , but history now mate , these 2 lurchers prob be my last ones , prob just get heinz 57 when bryn gone , as i am old and fooked now had 30 years at it . I’ll give you a honest opinion why your f1 collie x hasn’t been used bird Because your not a lying c**t! you’ve been honest as they come you’ve layed all cards on the table you’ve gave your honest opinion on his merits an disappointments in a fair truthful grading of your dog with no bull shit to big the dog up to pimp him out. It’s a shame really your dog as a lot to offer a Lurcher to Lurcher breeding especially to a bedlington x magic really happens when these 2crosses are combined a good all round traditional hunting dog that’s adaptable day&night it definitely irons out the niggly bits of both crosses to produce hardy survivable hunting dogs. 4 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,260 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 hours ago, nothernlite said: I never understood why birds dog bryn was never used as a stud was a fine example for a first cross is dan a full collie john ? Because he worked it reasonable hard to test it and admits its minor imperfections rather than just extolling its virtues. 6 Quote Link to post
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