Anyone on here taken steroids?

[low plains drifter 9,458]

4 hours ago, Jobi said:

I've got this.

You say that now

[Elchapo 3,094]

On 10/08/2019 at 10:07, gnasher16 said:

In that case,like someone else said its a strange question to be asking people.

He’s a strange guy lol 

[Jobi 387]

12 minutes ago, Elchapo said:

He’s a strange guy lol 

Soz Elcrapo.

[Elchapo 3,094]

1 hour ago, Jobi said:

Soz Elcrapo.

No worries Mitty 

[Jobi 387]

4 minutes ago, Elchapo said:

No worries Mitty 

What steroids are you taking, blood pressure is going up I can tell.

[Elchapo 3,094]

4 minutes ago, Jobi said:

What steroids are you taking, blood pressure is going up I can tell.

Just crack 

[Jobi 387]

2 minutes ago, Elchapo said:

Just crack 

Bad crack like your banter? 

[South hams hunter 8,814]

9 hours ago, Greyman said:

He’s a bit like the gatekeeper for thl, he will pick a random row with you and absolutely destroy you with his razor sharp wit and superior intelligence, at which point you will either flee thl never to be seen again or you will realise he is the resident village idiot that lives under a pebble in Devon looking for crabs and is often seen at low tide stuck up to his waist in the estuary,  show him no fear and you,ll be fine

How can any c**t that runs around chasing imaginary beasts call anyone an idiot? 

[gnasher16 29,602]

On 13/08/2019 at 10:41, maxhardcore said:

It was always Purple Om's Strawberries up here .

That must of been a Southern thing

errrrr nope,dont know what your on about.

Go on do it again,the lactic acid....you know,the stuff blokes with big muscles get.

[gnasher16 29,602]

22 hours ago, Francie said:

Thank you gnash, this might seem stupid, but what's the problem with an enlarged heart, what actually happens gnash? 

Would the heart not return to normal size if you stopped the gear? 

Anytime mate...more often than not its Left Ventricular Hypertrophy or Atrial Enlargement just where the walls thicken due to volume overload....the problem is that it has to work harder and obviously high bp......surprisingly there hasnt been too many studies done but they say around 20% of athletes 5 years after retirement will still have an enlarged heart...ace inhibitors or angio receptor blockers are very effective in treatment but yes the majority of the time the heart will return to normal size.

But Francie dont be caught into thinking its purely steroids that cause this.....any fully committed athlete is going to have some consequences of the extremes they push their body to.....any endurance athlete regardless of steroids will likely have an enlarged heart,just the same as footballers or rugby players are often left with joint problems,boxers are often left with brain issues etc.....any sport done to the extreme will have consequences compared to sedentary people.

[gnasher16 29,602]

2 hours ago, maxhardcore said:

Yeah def more chance of folk ' dogs ect with big muscles developing lactic acid build up than their more slender counterparts

....Why do you do it ....if you dont know much about something just avoid it....dont just guess !!

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

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Edited January 30, 2020 by ROM1

[Francie 6,362]

On 14/08/2019 at 11:04, gnasher16 said:

Anytime mate...more often than not its Left Ventricular Hypertrophy or Atrial Enlargement just where the walls thicken due to volume overload....the problem is that it has to work harder and obviously high bp......surprisingly there hasnt been too many studies done but they say around 20% of athletes 5 years after retirement will still have an enlarged heart...ace inhibitors or angio receptor blockers are very effective in treatment but yes the majority of the time the heart will return to normal size.

But Francie dont be caught into thinking its purely steroids that cause this.....any fully committed athlete is going to have some consequences of the extremes they push their body to.....any endurance athlete regardless of steroids will likely have an enlarged heart,just the same as footballers or rugby players are often left with joint problems,boxers are often left with brain issues etc.....any sport done to the extreme will have consequences compared to sedentary people.

Thank you gnash

[gnasher16 29,602]

On 15/08/2019 at 08:49, ROM1 said:

My mate Tom Hawk age 21 from Maidenhead died at a strong man comp held at Stirling castle. The post mortem showed his heart to be twice it’s natural size, and the age of a man over 50

A 21 year old juicing as heavy as he was is just ridiculous....yet its juice that gets the bad rap...alcohol and smoking kill far more people than steroids do....obesity destroys human beings but eggs & bacon doesnt get a bad rap.....anything consumed to extremes is harmful.

People stereotype steroids based on very little information,they tend to take the small details that make sense to them and repeat them as fact without knowing if its actually true.....like Max with his lactic acid theories,bless him...every athlete has a different lactate threshold its nothing to do with build or muscle size ....some people just have far greater lactate tolerance than others,its not actually the lactate that causes the pain its the hydrogen iron ( the acid  ) that poisons the muscle preventing it from contracting,and the dose athletes can withstand varies some can have a lactate of 10 and not even be able to stand/puking up etc whereas others can have a lactate of 21/22 and still be able to perform relatively comfortably their body is just far more efficient at shuttling the lactic acid out of the cell and back to the liver where it gets turned back into glucose.

Steroids actually make some sports safer...and if not for using them the sport probably wouldnt even be possible.....when the bodies power output is being pushed to peaks of 5 and 6 watts per kilogram you are talking about serious workload and stress on the body to such points where an athlete starts to become osteopenic,their bone density changes,the sheer pain and discomfort just isnt tolerable without chemical assistance.

So as much of a bad rap as steroids get much of modern sport simply wouldnt be possible without them....and society has a hard job getting their heads round that.

Edited August 17, 2019 by gnasher16

[Greyman 25,151]

FairPlay gnash your knowledge on all this is very commendable and something that’s obviously taken a lifetime of being in and around the gym, but for the average joe, roids  just represent there local 6ft 5 pimply necked, skinny leggged  bullying drug dealer who is just happy to fire everything and anything into themselves to look more intimidating usually in conjunction with a couple of lines of sniff to help the attitude along, the line between use and abuse is pretty invisible to the average man in the street