Gundog lurchers

[two crows 3,342]

On ‎10‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 10:08, Born Hunter said:

The one concern I would have with spaniel in a lurcher would be how much time it would spend with it's nose 2mm off the ground and it's quarry mere yards in front of it making it's escape. 

If the dog learnt to use it's eyes as much as it's nose it could well be lethal and very biddable. I doubt I'd ever kennel a lab over a spaniel but I'd probably prefer a lab-lurcher over a spaniel-lurcher (based on no experience of either, lol).

But if I was going for something a bit different, like these gundog-lurchers, I reckon I'd most like to have a pup from the union of a good strong pat over a greyhound. Probably turn out a complete ignorant wanker compared to a gundog-lurcher! 

the young bitch I have out my last litter of cockers is always watching and seems to be able to tell if a bird will pick from a long way off, and when they hunting nose down they are very aware of stuff moving, if someone would breed me one off my old cocker dog I would give one a try lol.

[shaaark 10,133]

On 10/07/2019 at 10:08, Born Hunter said:

The one concern I would have with spaniel in a lurcher would be how much time it would spend with it's nose 2mm off the ground and it's quarry mere yards in front of it making it's escape. 

If the dog learnt to use it's eyes as much as it's nose it could well be lethal and very biddable. I doubt I'd ever kennel a lab over a spaniel but I'd probably prefer a lab-lurcher over a spaniel-lurcher (based on no experience of either, lol).

But if I was going for something a bit different, like these gundog-lurchers, I reckon I'd most like to have a pup from the union of a good strong pat over a greyhound. Probably turn out a complete ignorant wanker compared to a gundog-lurcher! 

 

On 10/07/2019 at 10:57, Shortstraw said:

Wouldn’t worry about it’s eyes. Mine isn’t nose down mad all the time, she’s got a good combination of covering ground, but also uses her eyes well. There’s plenty of times where she slowly moves to the area where she expects something to be, dropping her shoulders and freezing etc to get as close as she can be. Got the best working brain on a lurcher I’ve had for daytime hunting. Seriously mine uses its eyes well. I went for this breed as I need a dog who lives to hunt, some of the lurchers I’ve owned were not driven enough to go and find game when there wasn’t much about.....adding the springer in the mix has changed that. She’s caught all sorts.....really surprised me

 

On 10/07/2019 at 11:00, Shortstraw said:

Oh and I forgot.......she’s very biddable.

 

34 minutes ago, two crows said:

the young bitch I have out my last litter of cockers is always watching and seems to be able to tell if a bird will pick from a long way off, and when they hunting nose down they are very aware of stuff moving, if someone would breed me one off my old cocker dog I would give one a try lol.

To all these posts above; about 45 years ago, a mate's old man used two welsh springers for all his rabbiting and ferreting. Both superbly trained, not in the conventional gundog sense, he was just a rabbiter, but would do EXACTLY what he wanted. Both caught hundreds of rabbits each season, and caught plenty of other game as well. 

I remember him telling me when I was a youngster starting out, 'you're using the wrong dogs for this area'. And when I used to think  about it, after the roughly 40 or 50 rabbits I caught 'in a whole season', I thought he made a good point lol

[Shortstraw 473]

Having springer in the mix has certainly added some hunting drive......easier to tra8n than the collie crosses I’ve had too, not that they were hard to train. She’s just so bright and eager to learn.

[C.green 3,203]

On 12/07/2019 at 16:02, shaaark said:

 

 

 

To all these posts above; about 45 years ago, a mate's old man used two welsh springers for all his rabbiting and ferreting. Both superbly trained, not in the conventional gundog sense, he was just a rabbiter, but would do EXACTLY what he wanted. Both caught hundreds of rabbits each season, and caught plenty of other game as well. 

I remember him telling me when I was a youngster starting out, 'you're using the wrong dogs for this area'. And when I used to think  about it, after the roughly 40 or 50 rabbits I caught 'in a whole season', I thought he made a good point lol

Do you still hunt the same area if so what do you use ? Ive seen terriers and spaniels catch allsorts in most places but i wouldnt head out with the lamp amd bushing type very often. 

[shaaark 10,133]

2 hours ago, C.green said:

Do you still hunt the same area if so what do you use ? Ive seen terriers and spaniels catch allsorts in most places but i wouldnt head out with the lamp amd bushing type very often. 

No mate, moved around quite a bit since those days. But those words of his ring true very frequently