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On 01/06/2019 at 01:34, bird said:

i reckon the  1 /4 lab 3/4 running dog , either greyhound or lurcher   make very good pot filler,good feet coat, and brain, but not as manic as some collie xs , yep  1/4 bred lab x running dog  make good lurcher .

They wunt be my kind of animal but I would say it needs to go back to a sight hound saturated beast in my humble opinion 

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3 hours ago, Dan Newcombe said:

I suppose that's the issue with most cross breeding, you don't quite know how they are going to throw in the first instance.

Its a way off just now so plenty of time to try and find a decent stud to do the job.

Would you consider using your dog as stud over a greyhound or coursing dog dam? In my mind I feel that the dam gives more shape so you might avoid too much clodiness but keep the desirable lab traits

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Definitely would use him over a running dog, the theory behind using our bitch was as much because finding someone who would want a litter of lab crosses out of their running bitch would have been less likely than someone with a decent dog using it over my lab. 

I agree that there is probably a reason that they haven't stayed the course and undoubtedly a 3/4 cross would be a better running dog but as an all rounds i like the sound of them - if it turns out OK then a 3/4 could be on the cards in years to come.

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4 hours ago, two crows said:

I quite like the theory of this, and there was a chap looking at foxhound crosses, but we must not forget that these things are not new, and have been abandoned for a reason, what that reason is I don't know, but when saluki's first started being crossed into lurchers something happened that that made them the ultimate hare dog, and we still have them, labs took over from flatcoats, for a reason, and the minority spaniel breads have been left behind for a reason.

Bit of track but some yrs a go pal bred a twenty six inch saluki mixed predominately lurcher two a first X collie spaniel these jukels bad all the ability of a gun dog breed plus lots smaller easier ta keep fantastic temperaments great in cover plus water now fa there size thy were equally has quick has a f1 collie xs but had more running ability top end could hang on in there a wee while,killing coneys birds etc mooching about only needs something around twent one ta twenty three more than enough one don't need sixty pound in weight ds this type a work lab greyhounds can come in way above the average lurcher size and weight the sal does lots ta the frame on a jukel the greyhound adds tons a power plus weight so does the modern working type whippet these in lots a cases are bigger heavier than non peds pound da pound different breeds with the same breed type name, the bitch has a massive outcome if any xs more so in a first generation breed of a jukel fa me a super fast up and at em coursing type will give you a chance of something in the nest.its okay and fine saying this will catch this that  deep winter the little coney will stretch the quickest if jukels simples has that.atb bill

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18 minutes ago, billhardy said:

Bit of track but some yrs a go pal bred a twenty six inch saluki mixed predominately lurcher two a first X collie spaniel these jukels bad all the ability of a gun dog breed plus lots smaller easier ta keep fantastic temperaments great in cover plus water now fa there size thy were equally has quick has a f1 collie xs but had more running ability top end could hang on in there a wee while,killing coneys birds etc mooching about only needs something around twent one ta twenty three more than enough one don't need sixty pound in weight ds this type a work lab greyhounds can come in way above the average lurcher size and weight the sal does lots ta the frame on a jukel the greyhound adds tons a power plus weight so does the modern working type whippet these in lots a cases are bigger heavier than non peds pound da pound different breeds with the same breed type name, the bitch has a massive outcome if any xs more so in a first generation breed of a jukel fa me a super fast up and at em coursing type will give you a chance of something in the nest.its okay and fine saying this will catch this that  deep winter the little coney will stretch the quickest if jukels simples has that.atb bill

Underestimated the old rabbit is

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Perhaps they are not a popular cross because of litter wastage in the first cross, most people are too impatient / lack time to start a breeding programme. Also it could be something as simple as fashion.

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I’d only have a first x, if I wanted a lurcher I’d get a lurcher, same as collie or kelpie or whatever, after a first x I’d go lurcher 

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5 minutes ago, talt said:

Perhaps they are not a popular cross because of litter wastage in the first cross, most people are too impatient / lack time to start a breeding programme. Also it could be something as simple as fashion.

brian plummer used to go in for breading programs, and all anyone ever saw was the end result, I always wandered what happened to all the other poor fkrs on the way to his goal.

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1 hour ago, talt said:

Perhaps they are not a popular cross because of litter wastage in the first cross, most people are too impatient / lack time to start a breeding programme. Also it could be something as simple as fashion.

There's far more to a ginger afro than fashion

 

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43 minutes ago, low plains drifter said:

There's far more to a ginger afro than fashion

 

Like what 

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2 minutes ago, low plains drifter said:

A confliction of Vikings, celts, and the Spanish armada 🤔

You found that perfect loam yet mate? 🤓

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6 hours ago, shaaark said:

You found that perfect loam yet mate? 🤓

No such thing furg all these lads chopping and changing compost at the end o the day you dig it and add the shite it only has to please you 

Feck what anyone else thinks

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9 hours ago, two crows said:

brian plummer used to go in for breading programs, and all anyone ever saw was the end result, I always wandered what happened to all the other poor fkrs on the way to his goal.

Plenty of terriers can do the job of a plummer,imo brian was looking for a legacy,his name forever on a breed.Close inbreeding and severe culling,an inhumane shortcut to please his ego.You might say this needs to be done to cement a line,I'd rather go the long way.

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On 02/06/2019 at 19:52, billhardy said:

Think a mentioned this before we had a greyhound kill a labradour inta fields the greyhound was sound with all our others jukels tykes ,just a b*****d a of a lab paid the price left them to it result dead lab .atb bill

Why did you feel the need to post that shite bill?? Same as your post about throwing the dead whippet in the river. If your gonna be a Cnut there’s no need to tell us about it. 

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