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It is an idea that has been floating around in my head for a while....using wast oil to fire a forge up to welding temp. Anyone that does much forge welding knows fuel is expensive!

 

I was looking to keep it as simple as possible so gravity fed fuel and low pressure air with no fancy nozzles to get clogged.

 

This is the solution i came up with.

 

Based around an old propane bottle. Filled with water and cut top and bottom off.

 

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Brake disk welded on vent end and an old chimney pot for the inner skin.

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Ceramic wool on the inside of the door, base and between the pot and the steel bottle.

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Painted rigidizer on the ceramic wool on the door and around the pot, layed a piece op polythene on and closed tight and let it dry. The pot was left 20mm proud so it pushed into the wool and formed a checked seal.

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Cored a hole through the lot for the burner.

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Burner 50mm scaffold pipe with stainless milker nipple nozzle on the end. Something like a 8mm steel pipe down the middle for an oil feed. Initially i left the end of the air pie restricted thinking it would spray the oil better but it restricted the air flow too much so i cut it back to nearly full bore.

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After first fire the chimney pot is cracked but still in tact. I put o piece of stainless steel 6mm plate in the chamber where the oil lands. This needs to be red hot for the oil to vaporize and ignite. The first burn i just threw some paper and sticks in and lit them up then started injecting oil and air. For the next burn i added a quick hitch point pr a propane line to pre-heat before starting the oil injection.

 

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Pics of the assembled unit. Waste oil holder is just a plumbers gas bottle with the bottom cut off and a simple tap to control the oil flow.

 

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Here she is on her maiden run at forging steel. Ever optimistic i went for forge welding straight off. About 12 strands of bed spring and 4 strips of file welded in a bundle then forge welded like a cable weld, twisting them together. These pics are all with the burner shut off, just the after glow!

 

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This thing pumps out insane heat. After running at welding temps for a couple of hours it has actually started to melt the fire-clay chimney pot! May replace it with fire-bricks or refractory, but will wait till it disintegrates,

 

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In summary: The whole thing was built entirely from scrap.The fuel is even free. The only thing i paid for was the ceramic wool and welding rods. Best used outside. It burns surprisingly clean but i wouldn't chance running it in an enclosed space. The blower is an old variable speed hoover...again off the dump. It pumps out insane heat but is quite adjustable. It will light up again without pre-heat half an hour after the previous shut down....just turn on the oil and air.

 

Finally here is the forge welded Damascus blank.

 

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It is an idea that has been floating around in my head for a while....using wast oil to fire a forge up to welding temp. Anyone that does much forge welding knows fuel is expensive!   I was

Well i bought a ram.......think it is big enough? 6"bore! 200 bar should give 36 tonne if my calcs are right.😜 P1090483 by Terry Griffiths, on Flickr

Something along those lines griff was a burner i saw many years ago in a garage workshop,it was a reamess (spelling,but big pot bellied cow boy style thing) which had a oil feed and a water feed into

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