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Just wondering what people opinions are on not giving a terrier the reward at the end of a dig? could it potentially ruin a dog just pulling it out digs and it not getting a rag at the end? Or does it make no odds? Good to hear everyone’s opinions, cheers. 

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The way I do things is all the ragging and rewarding are done in the first year then after that it's dig to my dog open up and pull them out as soon as, no rag or reward in and out.

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A reward what the f**k. I've never given a reward at any stage they seem happy enough to been underground taking its quarry on. Sorry but a reward we ain't in the Kennel club on this site buddy. OMG holy shit I hope this don't come into the terrier game as well.

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I’ve never rewarded, as soon as I’ve broke through I remove the dog, his job is done and he should be keen to go again regardless if he’s had a shake of a carcass. Sure some lads do it differently and let the dogs rag a carcass but I don’t see the need, seen a few good dogs that wouldn’t bother with a dead fox.

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Well put Rob, the best digging dogs I’ve seen had little or no interest in a dead fox. And some of the shittiest, cowardly dogs I’ve seen would rag one like it’s life depended on it.

Edited to add, when it was legal we would always let the quarry run, I often thought it fired the dog up more than just shoot and give a rag.

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7 hours ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

Well put Rob, the best digging dogs I’ve seen had little or no interest in a dead fox. And some of the shittiest, cowardly dogs I’ve seen would rag one like it’s life depended on it.

Edited to add, when it was legal we would always let the quarry run, I often thought it fired the dog up more than just shoot and give a rag.

I said it on here before rh that the best bitch I ever owned never put a tooth in a fox above the sod simply had no interest. 

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10 hours ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

Well put Rob, the best digging dogs I’ve seen had little or no interest in a dead fox. And some of the shittiest, cowardly dogs I’ve seen would rag one like it’s life depended on it.

Edited to add, when it was legal we would always let the quarry run, I often thought it fired the dog up more than just shoot and give a rag.

Would that Brock dog off me rag a dead one?His mother wouldnt even sniff one once it was dead.

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8 hours ago, downsouth said:

Would that Brock dog off me rag a dead one?His mother wouldnt even sniff one once it was dead.

No he was the same, didn’t care for a dead one. 

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The original question is does it do any harm to not reward a dog with a rag and the answer is no it doesn’t .Personally I think if you start a pup off by teasing it with a carcass then it will always be a ragger .Starting a pup the natural way ie no encouragement at all by an earth usually makes for an animal that  sees the work as it’s calling and not the end of the job .However ,any terrier can be wound up enough to rag a carcass ,it’s in their nature especially if joined by another .Ive owned both ,it’s not easy keeping some off a dead fox when they are screaming in your ear .

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It's in any dog whatever breed to naturally rag things, a little encouragement as pups does no harm I think, a few rats and a bit of bushing will get any late starters going, but only as pups once they know the score I stop. The best dogs I've had wouldn't look at anything dead no matter how much encouragement you gave them.

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On 22/01/2019 at 13:39, howdeeposxxt said:

A reward what the f**k. I've never given a reward at any stage they seem happy enough to been underground taking its quarry on. Sorry but a reward we ain't in the Kennel club on this site buddy. OMG holy shit I hope this don't come into the terrier game as well.

I agree the work is the reward and only reward.  Imagine keeping kibble in your pocket and at the end you open it up and say good boy as your shaking the bag of treats and he come running out to get them!  Hahahaha

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I’m amazed only person has mentioned letting em run vein good for the dog? Iv always said a terrier watching one run away only gets keener, obviously that’s all behind us now as it’s against the hunting act, but can’t deny the couple terriers I’ve entered have been drive crazy by watching fox run away, Iv always waited as long it takes for a dog to start an dont have super dooper standards or shit hot dogs to measure em against tho😁 an usually I get s terrier to do summat, tho obviously nowhere near all of em make real good digging dogs, but the couple Iv seen that did, looked to have knows the score from the off. I don’t breed but if I did then likes been said in this thread I’d deffo breed off the naturals rather than the ones that an age to click😳

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I think some of you boys are taking the  "reward" the wrong way, I'm pretty sure the original poster meant the carcass as the "reward".

It does no harm what so ever, I've had plenty that won't touch them and even more that can't get enough in their mouths.  Back in the day I've let loose plenty of foxes, I either let the youngsters watch it run down the field or let the fox have fair law then tip the youngster loose to chase it and hunt it once it looses sight. It does wonders for their confidence and it's reward enough instead of killing everything as the stupid laws dictate. 

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