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1 hour ago, foxdropper said:

Did you breed the Dam mate and what was her breeding . Pm if you prefer .Just goes to show this one comment has changed history lol.Im guessing she was still  NS breeding though .Was a tidy useful bitch from memory .Grisle .

If the mother of your ns pups was bronwyn then yes I bred her.

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The Toby dog I started out with was from a brother sister mating, Choker and Mo, he was undershot,  it was in there from the beginning.  He opened my eyes to what sort of a standard can be achieved, 

I had quite a few of them RS, again, some where curs, some ran well and beat the stags hands down, one in particular came to meet the stags. I was well looked after out there and I met some real

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I've had terriers from this line that would grow a new leg if needed,  I've had terriers that didn't or couldn't heal from a small knick. They're a mixture of this an that,  it's upto the lads that keep them to better them or finish them.

I've only recently come across the elongated soft pallet,  as stated it's easily sorted with fitness levels. 

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Another fault that I would like some grey haired input on is coon dog paralysis.I did the same breeding 6 times and kept them all to get a fair assessment as statistics only work on larger scale.Hard to judge a litter of 3.This took about 10 years of effort. I picked the best steady working male.In his fourth season he became paralyzed.After a month of me massaging him and building a contraption to work him he began to walk again.I have bred him with intentions of not breeding any offspring that has it.I have kept some without his blood as backup plan.What would terrier men of old do? 

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16 hours ago, Apache... said:

Going back to the thin skin comment Fd, (something that pisses me off) I'm sure something has been added to the breeding and crops up in black terriers now and again (thankfully not in mine) maybe border/lakey etc because the majority of blacks have thick skin.

Your right mate but what it was is a mystery ,though could of been persistent inbreeding .

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23 hours ago, eastcoast said:

Are you not overthinking things? A pet bred terrier and you have access to land/quarry and to date she's doing the job? Happy days man, just enjoy it. Carry on working her and make your own assessment whether an undershot jaw is a problem or not. If further down the line you did decide to breed from her then her mouth may be the least of your problems. What stud to use to replicate her type? Worker to worker people would say I suppose and pay no heed to the physical type. History/legend tells us that Jack Russell bought his foundation bitch from the local milkman. Who knows? Just enjoy hunting with her at the moment would be my advice.

perfect advise eastcoast....just enjoy hunting lad you dont see her jaw underground

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20 hours ago, Rickshaw swami said:

Does anyone classify bottle raised pups as a weakness.Has anyone noticed lower percentage? 

IMO I wouldn't and couldn't see any problems with bottle reared pups, they don't know they're bottle fed, they'd just be happy to be full. I've bottle fed pups, I've seen no problems at all, as long as you've socialised then all should be fine. 

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15 hours ago, Rickshaw swami said:

Another fault that I would like some grey haired input on is coon dog paralysis.I did the same breeding 6 times and kept them all to get a fair assessment as statistics only work on larger scale.Hard to judge a litter of 3.This took about 10 years of effort. I picked the best steady working male.In his fourth season he became paralyzed.After a month of me massaging him and building a contraption to work him he began to walk again.I have bred him with intentions of not breeding any offspring that has it.I have kept some without his blood as backup plan.What would terrier men of old do? 

There's no coons in this country RS, well not the right ones anyway ?, no one will have any experience mate.

I had a few weeks out there hunting coons,  the lads used a pea sized drop of horse wormer after every days hunting.  The wormer contained ivomec, they said it stopped the parasites that caused the paralysis  ?

A word of warning though,  I learned the hard way not to use the stuff, I gave half the amount to twice the terrier and it went blind for two days !  I took him straight to the vets, he told me it was the ivomectin  that had affected him  neurologically. There was no silver bullet to cure it, I had to sit with him for two days and nights. The dog can die because it can't regulate it's body temperature  (hypothermia), I had to cool him down one minute,  the next I was wrapping him up to control his shivering. 

When I ask the lads out there they just said there terriers were on it all of the working season and they must have built up a tolerance. 

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Possum and Coon, I couldn't find a north American badger. The coons are in silly numbers in certain areas,  the possum your grannies yorkie could sort out lol. The coons are a good substitute for the fox IMO, you get some with more grit than others but with the amount we caught the dogs took plenty of trade.

The badgers are nomadic,  they'll clean dozens of earth's out and flit between them all, they're constantly on the move.

I ran the coyotes and dug a few coon, the bulk of the coon came from barns, plenty of fun but it's not the same a's moving soil. 

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