Depression

[Arry 18,514]

On 25/11/2018 at 13:45, Waz said:

Mentioned elsewhere & seeing as its good to talk - which typically we dont!

 

Zinc Magnesium! 

Over-the-counter magnesium tablets can banish the blues in just TWO WEEKS without the side effects associated with antidepressants

• Taking a daily dose of the mineral eases depression without causing side effects
• Some 61% of the study's participants would use the supplements in the future
• Magnesium combats inflammation, which is linked to the mental health disorder
• Improvements occur regardless of the patient's age, sex or antidepressant use 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4646528/Magnesium-tablets-significantly-improve-depression.html 

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"I listen to The Smiths to cheer myself up"

I take Magnesium for arthritis, the base of my thumbs give me feck now ( can't make nets any more). Suppose to help as its an anti-inflammatory, not sure it works but frightened to stop. The pain is so bad some times I can't turn a tap on or off, its a b*****d.

Cheers Arry

[jigsaw 11,809]

Its plain to see that a  lot of people have been affected by this debilitating illness,and its quiet clear its not a sickness youd wish on your worst enemy,,I will give you folks a little idea of how it affected my Sis...My sis was 23 when she was struck down with it,just out of the blue she folded like a deck of cards ,before that time she was a very accomplished classical spanish guitarist,she was trained by  a top instructor,she even got trials for the RTE Symphony Orchestra.her guitar teacher told my parents if she kept progressing at the rate she was going she would be a very accomplished musician,..manys an evening we as a family sat in our very run down and humble little house to listen to her play,,and her greatness was obvious to us all,she could play the church organ ,like a pro also,,you know the organs with the bige pipes and 3 sets of keyboards ? well she played at weddings ,and was a dinger on the piano and her musical talents knew no bounds ,and after all the years of learning  and practice ,she one day had a breakdown,and was hospitalised and 12 months later she was a shadow of her former self ,never again to pick up the guitar..in fact I still have it here in its original case ..she will not even look at it now ..she was housebound for a good few years as she was diagnosed as a schizophrenic,and after a very long time we persuaded her to go out for a short walk on her own just around the block,and unbelievably she was mugged and her purse stolen by a local cnut,17 years old ,...and she was set back again for another long while 

                                                                                    where she lives now they have classes for lots of subjects ,silly little matters that give the residents a sense of achievement ,and there was a class there for learning the harp..a half sized version ,and she took it on board ,and after 4 weeks she could knock out songs that she knew from years ago ,the instructor was gobsmacked but she hasnt the concentration to keep at it any more but shes as happy as she ever will be ,and safe,warm and fed ..cant ask for anything more ,we visit her every week and she comes home for the day at easter ,x mass and other functions but is not comfortable outside her room , its been a long traumatic life for everyone at times but weve come to a good ending ,

                                                                                   This illness can rip a family and their hearts to pieces ,its one of the worst sickness to experience and you feel totally helpless nearly all of the time ..dont ever think its a trivial thing ,,it can have many layers in a person and just when you think its getting better it becomes a  whole lot worse and one cant understand why or see it coming ,that is the sad and frightening thing about depression  ..

Edited November 27, 2018 by jigsaw

[Kay 3,709]

3 hours ago, twobob said:

Kay is my cake finished lol

I was looking up a christmas cake recipe earlier to make over the weekend as it happens

[Kay 3,709]

14 minutes ago, jigsaw said:

Its plain to see that a  lot of people have been affected by this debilitating illness,and its quiet clear its not a sickness youd wish on your worst enemy,,I will give you folks a little idea of how it affected my Sis...My sis was 23 when she was struck down with it,just out of the blue she folded like a deck of cards ,before that time she was a very accomplished classical spanish guitarist,she was trained by  a top instructor,she even got trials for the RTE Symphony Orchestra.her guitar teacher told my parents if she kept progressing at the rate she was going she would be a very accomplished musician,..manys an evening we as a family sat in our very run down and humble little house to listen to her play,,and her greatness was obvious to us all,she could play the church organ ,like a pro also,,you know the organs with the bige pipes and 3 sets of keyboards ? well she played at weddings ,and was a dinger on the piano and her musical talents knew no bounds ,and after all the years of learning  and practice ,she one day had a breakdown,and was hospitalised and 12 months later she was a shadow of her former self ,never again to pick up the guitar..in fact I still have it here in its original case ..she will not even look at it now ..she was housebound for a good few years as she was diagnosed as a schizophrenic,and after a very long time we persuaded her to go out for a short walk on her own just around the block,and unbelievably she was mugged and her purse stolen by a local cnut,17 years old ,...and she was set back again for another long while 

                                                                                    where she lives now they have classes for lots of subjects ,silly little matters that give the residents a sense of achievement ,and there was a class there for learning the harp..a half sized version ,and she took it on board ,and after 4 weeks she could knock out songs that she knew from years ago ,the instructor was gobsmacked but she hasnt the concentration to keep at it any more but shes as happy as she ever will be ,and safe,warm and fed ..cant ask for anything more ,we visit her every week and she comes home for the day at easter ,x mass and other functions but is not comfortable outside her room , its been a long traumatic life for everyone at times but weve come to a good ending ,

                                                                                   This illness can rip a family and their hearts to pieces ,its one of the worst sickness to experience and you feel totally helpless nearly all of the time ..dont ever think its a trivial thing ,,it can have many layers in a person and just when you think its getting better it becomes a  whole lot worse and one cant understand why or see it coming ,that is the sad and frightening thing about depression  ..

Liam she clearly has a good family behind her , lovely to read she has shown an interest in an instrument again even if it was for a short while x

[Blackbriar 8,568]

To everyone else who's shared their stories, thank you.

When you're not ill yourself, but an illness encroaches in your life, it's very easy to feel alone, like you're the only one. The good Lady and I have felt pushed to desperation ourselves, but we've found great support from people who are walking in the same shoes as us. The greatest help we've found is simply having someone to talk to !

If you know someone who is a sufferer, don't t be afraid. You don't need any specialist understanding, or technical training..........you just have to be able to care !

[TALKCHEAP 183]

On 25 November 2018 at 18:16, jigsaw said:

Ray,its clear you have no real understanding of depression,you can take all the meds in the world and it will never sort out the mind of a manic depressive,and you got the patience of a saint ...id be very happy not to have you anywhere near  any poor soul with mental issues,you have a very selfish outlook it seems after reading your thoughts ..ive lived with a family member for 50 years with mental health issues,and its horrendous for all the family but 10 times worse for the sufferer

 kids too, life for them now is one big competition , 

[TALKCHEAP 183]

On 25 November 2018 at 19:06, riohog said:

i dont understand it ,, we all get downers  from time to time , i suppose  some can shake it off  and some just cant and the hole gets deeper  

il tell you what it can be like , its like winning the lottery one day, and some one dying in your family the next , and that can happen several times a day ,and you with no control, and thats only one part of it ,

[TALKCHEAP 183]

On 25 November 2018 at 19:29, riohog said:

biggest killer of males under 35..ffs were did those figures come from ffs is everone under 35  depressed  ?fkn glad im 65  ,when i was 35 i was to busy shagging and drinking to be depressed    

do you know what the biggest cause of depression is ,and its been proven , having a brain , 6 or 7 thousand people kill them selves each year in this country ,and how low must anyone feel to do that, and how many must think about it too,

Edited November 28, 2018 by TALKCHEAP
for got to say this country

[mackem 23,676]

2 hours ago, jigsaw said:

Its plain to see that a  lot of people have been affected by this debilitating illness,and its quiet clear its not a sickness youd wish on your worst enemy,,I will give you folks a little idea of how it affected my Sis...My sis was 23 when she was struck down with it,just out of the blue she folded like a deck of cards ,before that time she was a very accomplished classical spanish guitarist,she was trained by  a top instructor,she even got trials for the RTE Symphony Orchestra.her guitar teacher told my parents if she kept progressing at the rate she was going she would be a very accomplished musician,..manys an evening we as a family sat in our very run down and humble little house to listen to her play,,and her greatness was obvious to us all,she could play the church organ ,like a pro also,,you know the organs with the bige pipes and 3 sets of keyboards ? well she played at weddings ,and was a dinger on the piano and her musical talents knew no bounds ,and after all the years of learning  and practice ,she one day had a breakdown,and was hospitalised and 12 months later she was a shadow of her former self ,never again to pick up the guitar..in fact I still have it here in its original case ..she will not even look at it now ..she was housebound for a good few years as she was diagnosed as a schizophrenic,and after a very long time we persuaded her to go out for a short walk on her own just around the block,and unbelievably she was mugged and her purse stolen by a local cnut,17 years old ,...and she was set back again for another long while 

                                                                                    where she lives now they have classes for lots of subjects ,silly little matters that give the residents a sense of achievement ,and there was a class there for learning the harp..a half sized version ,and she took it on board ,and after 4 weeks she could knock out songs that she knew from years ago ,the instructor was gobsmacked but she hasnt the concentration to keep at it any more but shes as happy as she ever will be ,and safe,warm and fed ..cant ask for anything more ,we visit her every week and she comes home for the day at easter ,x mass and other functions but is not comfortable outside her room , its been a long traumatic life for everyone at times but weve come to a good ending ,

                                                                                   This illness can rip a family and their hearts to pieces ,its one of the worst sickness to experience and you feel totally helpless nearly all of the time ..dont ever think its a trivial thing ,,it can have many layers in a person and just when you think its getting better it becomes a  whole lot worse and one cant understand why or see it coming ,that is the sad and frightening thing about depression  ..

Thank you for sharing this.

[jigsaw 11,809]

On 28/11/2018 at 01:21, mackem said:

Thank you for sharing this.

no problem ,its just part of life ,your body gets sick ,your mind can also...no stigma should be attached to mental illness...after reading these pages ,folk may realise its more common spread than one might ever imagine 

[Welsh_red 4,302]

my grandad tried to kill himself few years ago . he got depressed after my nan passed. he is so glad he failed now

[waltjnr 5,958]

Human brain is claimed to be such a great thing, it can also have its moments, i took an overdose, i couldn't face life, i have no mother, father,

at the time just a wife, son, brother, tough times!