Brexit

[neil82 1,008]

2 hours ago, VOON said:

Doesn't sit well with me.

With the mercosur deal, the E.U. has agreed to allow in 99,000 tonnes of South American beef into Europe for resale, mercosur wanted 350,000 tonnes to come in.  The trade deal has been ongoing for 20 years.  Agriculture has been sold out to its detriment everywhere in Europe over the last 50 years, even though it's getting more efficient and still a main business driver in all European countries with lots of other industries living off the back of it.  

The beef protestors in Ireland are protesting outside factories at the price been given  by the processors, if processors were giving what farmers deem a fair price for beef, there would be no protests.  

Factories know the amount of cattle being finished in Ireland at any one time, when cattle are coming fit, they always push prices down and string farmers along pushing costs up and causing unnecessary stress on them, when cattle should go when there ready.  Grading is another big area where farmers are being screwed.

rainforests and carbon emmissions from cattle, yep hawarden kite first aired by greeners who fly off on there holiers each summer to destress, with no idea of how to feed the world or save the planet. 

What's root cause of Global Warming?

 

99,000 ton of beef is chickenfeed, the NZ lamb quota is over 230,000 tons into the EU, guess where gets lumbered with half that

[WILF 44,196]

The hard thing with food is that food is kept artificially cheap in order that they can nick your money off you for a whole host of other shit, mostly a tax of some kind or another.

So for you average mum, when you can buy 3 chickens for the price that 1 local free range bird will cost.....what’s she going to do?

She still has to pay all the other stealth tax crap.

Again, it’s just another method of control......and a fairly obvious one to anybody that stops to think about it for 5 minutes.

[VOON 1,313]

7 hours ago, neil82 said:

99,000 ton of beef is chickenfeed, the NZ lamb quota is over 230,000 tons into the EU, guess where gets lumbered with half that

Yes agree, but I'd say if you read the small print in the deal.  It will be due to rise in 10 years time with the trend towards higher level industries in Europe or that's at least what the politicians hope for....

[WILF 44,196]

10 hours ago, VOON said:

the only shit stirrers with regard to the Brexit deal is ...........drum roll..... 

The British government and elected members of Parliament.  

Ye want to leave, voted in Parliament not to leave without a deal....didn't know what deal Ye wanted, voted down the deal May got.....are leaving now without a deal....all the while Boris and co are still rabbiting on about getting a good deal if the E.U drops the backstop....

So if Ireland agrees to no Backstop will Ye then agree a deal?

I will totally agree that the British Government have been as much of a villain in all this as everyone else......but I don’t agree they are the only villain.

The perverse dance we have witnessed the last 3 and a bit years has only ever been about one thing.......how to overturn the result of a legitimate democratic vote that every (british) politician said they would honour.

Now, I will say again, that should matter to you as much as it matters to any “leave” voter IF you value your democratic freedom.......if you don’t, then of course you will be in favour of whatever most benefits you.

That stands to reason.

Varadkar (no doubt on the orders of our masters in Brussels) has attempted time and time again to stoke the flames of paramilitary violence, if not in actual deed then definitely in the threat of such madness.

And I have to say, masses of people have chosen to legitimise his obviously insane and disgusting rhetoric !

4 million cars a day drive into London and NOT ONE......NOT A SINGLE ONE gets past the CCL or ULEZ cameras.......so to suggest there couldn’t be a very simple technological solution for cross border goods to the tune of probably no more than a thousand vehicles a day is ludicrous.

Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows it’s ludicrous.......especially given the fact we are island nations and nothing is getting past the sea ports that shouldn’t anyway ! 

All the politicians in this are scumbags.......but the fact that people are helping them with utter nonsense is terrible.

A nation state took a vote, respect it, end of.

Edited August 14, 2019 by WILF

[dogmandont 9,317]

 

 

[big sid 1,118]

corbyn asking and getting a lot of support to take over as pm in a temporary way till an election takes place.

[neil82 1,008]

all this shit about a backstop is just that, a pile of shit to disguise a backdoor into the UK, if left to politicians on both sides to set up you can guarantee it will end up twice as wide as the front door and have a sodding great wedge holding it open

[neil82 1,008]

1 minute ago, big sid said:

corbyn asking and getting a lot of support to take over as pm in a temporary way till an election takes place.

do you actually believe that that terrorist loving communist cnut would get enough support, his idea of a modern utopia is fukcing Venezuela, he`s the only one in the whole house that's a bigger idiot than Bercow

[big sid 1,118]

2 hours ago, neil82 said:

do you actually believe that that terrorist loving communist cnut would get enough support, his idea of a modern utopia is fukcing Venezuela, he`s the only one in the whole house that's a bigger idiot than Bercow

stranger things happen neil, an ex tory now libdem was on breafast news and reckons it may be the only way to stop boris and what needs to be done to achieve it needs to be done.

[WILF 44,196]

It’s win/win for those of us who want to see the current political system blown to bits........if they honour the vote, politics changes and if they don’t politics changes.

All good whatever happens

[Arry 18,536]

2 hours ago, big sid said:

stranger things happen neil, an ex tory now libdem was on breafast news and reckons it may be the only way to stop boris and what needs to be done to achieve it needs to be done.

Sarah Wollaston (My MP) 

Was Leave then change her mind to Remain.

Was Tory walk across the floor to the Change Party

Was Change Party switched Independent

Was Independent switched to Lib-Dem.

Was sensible turned into a bloody traitor.

She doesn't know what she wants.

Cheers Arry

[sandymere 8,260]

[Greyman 25,165]

3 minutes ago, sandymere said:

If you believe the shit you read that’s fine, but if you open your  eyes you will realise why half of th eu is moving to Britain not because it’s worse than there own country,s that would make them as thick as you, 9 country,s in the eu give in more than they take out and if you remove all the spin and shite you usually look at for you facts the highest contributor is little old us, so take your eu love and f**k clean off , I’m sure there is a lovely hovel in Romania that would welcome you with open arms you cowardly traitor,  

[micky 3,325]

When  / if  we leave will the price of Fish , food , and Beer come down because we often go to Spain  and all of those items are FAR< FAR cheaper over there  than here ?? to me the only things that are cheaper in England are the Daily Mail  and the Sunday Times .

[ginger beard 4,652]

My main concern right now regarding brexit is who would i rather f**k..lisa nandy or pretti patel.