Brexit

[kanny 19,322]

All theatrics I know ...but still lol ...

 

[liP 699]

https://news.sky.com/story/ecb-opens-door-to-rate-cut-as-outlook-darkens-11770351

Could be a perfect storm, in Boris's favour. 

[mackem 23,662]

6 hours ago, kanny said:

All theatrics I know ...but still lol ...

 

Corbin doing his queen Vic impression,not amused 

[Nicepix 5,650]

On 24/07/2019 at 19:37, kanny said:

Time will tell,its poker faces at this point. 

Hopefully this PM won't play four aces as two pairs like the last one did.

[DIDO.1 20,804]

On 24/07/2019 at 19:45, dogmandont said:

How much more would they loose? Or is it purely guess work? 

 

[DIDO.1 20,804]

On 24/07/2019 at 19:45, dogmandont said:

How much more would they loose? Or is it purely guess work? 

Only nine countries pay more in to total eu budget than they take out, we are one of them. If we played hard ball the eu would be fcked 

[Greyman 25,114]

On 24/07/2019 at 19:45, dogmandont said:

How much more would they loose? Or is it purely guess work? 

I can’t add you a link, but I read somewhere recently that if we all added a 20 percent tariff to our goods, going to and from Europe the uk would be 8bn up on the eu, the big problem for them and the card they are keeping very quiet about is the European  project to dominate the world car market, 5hey are sticking there shite motors in everything from range rovers to Toyota and if it came to a trade war, some 750,000 Germans employed in the car market would loose there jobs overnight which would spell economic and political chaos for Germany/eu, ,

[Nicepix 5,650]

9 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

Only nine countries pay more in to total eu budget than they take out, we are one of them. If we played hard ball the eu would be fcked 

Correct.

Of those nine countries some receive more back in trade within the EU than they  put in.  When they hand the dosh over to Brussels and Brussels then divvies it out to the poorer EU countries they then spend these grants and subsidies on EU manufactured goods from Germany, Italy, Spain and Holland. Because the UK doesn't manufacture as much as some of the others they are net importers of goods from the EU, not net exporters. That means the UK isn't getting the same returns on their EU payments that the others are. In effect the UK are subsidising EU businesses.

Also, what many don't appreciate is that in addition to the €7 or €8 billion net that the UK pays into the EU every year the EU also skim 0.3% of all VAT payments and 80% of the import duties on non-EU goods brought into the UK. Add all that up and the UK taxpayers and consumers are contributing €40 billion per year to the EU.

The trade that the EU companies does with the UK cannot be over emphasised. Every day lots of refrigerated HGVs leave France and Spain loaded with fruit and vegetables bound for UK customers. These same wagons then load up with Scottish and Irish sea food and make the return journey. These lorries cannot afford to be held up on the docks waiting for customs clearance.

The UK has the biggest and best fishing waters in the EU. At the moment these fishing grounds are allocated to EU vessels. Spain has virtually no fishing grounds, but they are the EU's biggest consumer of fish. Trawlers based in France spend 100% of their fishing time in UK waters. Even German trawlers get a cut of the UK grounds. With a no deal these boats will have to pay the UK for access.

20% of German manufactured cars are sold in the UK. If there is a no deal the UK could scrap the current import duties on Japanese and Korean cars and make them much cheaper than EU manufactured vehicles. The German car industry is on its arse already. It cannot afford to turn its back on one-fifth of its market.

The only reason that the UK are in this position now is that Theresa May refused to stand up to the EU bully-boys and play hard ball nose to nose.

 

[hambone 948]

11 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

 

Thank you for that. I couldn't be arsed to look for 'proof'

[hambone 948]

1 hour ago, Nicepix said:

Correct.

Of those nine countries some receive more back in trade within the EU than they  put in.  When they hand the dosh over to Brussels and Brussels then divvies it out to the poorer EU countries they then spend these grants and subsidies on EU manufactured goods from Germany, Italy, Spain and Holland. Because the UK doesn't manufacture as much as some of the others they are net importers of goods from the EU, not net exporters. That means the UK isn't getting the same returns on their EU payments that the others are. In effect the UK are subsidising EU businesses.

Also, what many don't appreciate is that in addition to the €7 or €8 billion net that the UK pays into the EU every year the EU also skim 0.3% of all VAT payments and 80% of the import duties on non-EU goods brought into the UK. Add all that up and the UK taxpayers and consumers are contributing €40 billion per year to the EU.

The trade that the EU companies does with the UK cannot be over emphasised. Every day lots of refrigerated HGVs leave France and Spain loaded with fruit and vegetables bound for UK customers. These same wagons then load up with Scottish and Irish sea food and make the return journey. These lorries cannot afford to be held up on the docks waiting for customs clearance.

The UK has the biggest and best fishing waters in the EU. At the moment these fishing grounds are allocated to EU vessels. Spain has virtually no fishing grounds, but they are the EU's biggest consumer of fish. Trawlers based in France spend 100% of their fishing time in UK waters. Even German trawlers get a cut of the UK grounds. With a no deal these boats will have to pay the UK for access.

20% of German manufactured cars are sold in the UK. If there is a no deal the UK could scrap the current import duties on Japanese and Korean cars and make them much cheaper than EU manufactured vehicles. The German car industry is on its arse already. It cannot afford to turn its back on one-fifth of its market.

The only reason that the UK are in this position now is that Theresa May refused to stand up to the EU bully-boys and play hard ball nose to nose.

 

And this. 

[Meece 1,957]

  I'm sure that Boris in being heavily advised by backroom staff and After the  agresive cull of dead wood in the cabinet positions, I'm sure that a lot of those mp's that are still operating in a non democratic manner should be wheeled in by their constituencies and their cards heavily marked. P  45. Still the bloke who looks like a chimpanzee reckons he'll be hill walking a lot more. Along with a lot more of them. The bbc needs a bit of the night of the long knives also. Stiff action is needed right across the board and that loon that keeps hollering out at Westminster needs a spell in broadmore with the head jobs. They should make it unfashionable to be smart arses. Failing that a load on them strung up on the railings as the traitors that they are.  Oh and I  am a very moderate easy going friendly sort of fellow. So what are the extreme fellows thinking?

[hambone 948]

1 hour ago, Meece said:

  I'm sure that Boris in being heavily advised by backroom staff and After the  agresive cull of dead wood in the cabinet positions, I'm sure that a lot of those mp's that are still operating in a non democratic manner should be wheeled in by their constituencies and their cards heavily marked. P  45. Still the bloke who looks like a chimpanzee reckons he'll be hill walking a lot more. Along with a lot more of them. The bbc needs a bit of the night of the long knives also. Stiff action is needed right across the board and that loon that keeps hollering out at Westminster needs a spell in broadmore with the head jobs. They should make it unfashionable to be smart arses. Failing that a load on them strung up on the railings as the traitors that they are.  Oh and I  am a very moderate easy going friendly sort of fellow. So what are the extreme fellows thinking?

They deserve to be tied to the railings and forced to have maths lessons off Diane Abbott. 

[Lenmcharristar 9,169]

1 hour ago, hambone said:

They deserve to be tied to the railings and forced to have maths lessons off Diane Abbott. 

And eat her mong on her red week

[Meece 1,957]

31 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

And eat her mong on her red week

Nahh.  that's mental cruelty.  surely anyone would prefer to opt for hanging , drawing and quartering.  it could end up a case of cake or death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkWbEmtYXs

[ChrisJones 7,973]

On 24/07/2019 at 18:17, hambone said:

It does if they want to continue to trade with us. They hit us with tariffs, we respond in kind = they loose more than us because they sell more than us

You understand that they're threatening sanctions not just tariffs?

It won't matter how much we export or import if 50% of Britains trading partners are forbidden from doing so. Again the answer is pretty straight forward but Britain hasn't got the stomach for shaking up the government and loosening the barriers to business for everyone.