Brexit

[WILF 44,183]

1 minute ago, green lurchers said:

XThey all the same sort of shit  lol but go on wat the fk is that airbrushed fake tan blonde doing up the rd 

Just been voted on as a Tory councillor mate in the local council !

Everyone crying like f**k about what the Tory’s are doing in parliament, the crime , the tribes arriving in the area, houses being built all over everything to house them.........then vote in some 80s pop star when there was an independent local lad on the ticket !

You couldn’t f***ing make it up !

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9 minutes ago, WILF said:

Just been voted on as a Tory councillor mate in the local council !

Everyone crying like f**k about what the Tory’s are doing in parliament, the crime , the tribes arriving in the area, houses being built all over everything to house them.........then vote in some 80s pop star when there was an independent local lad on the ticket !

You couldn’t f***ing make it up !

You got to look at the positives mate 1 labour came nowhere although they gained by ten votes most probably refugees 2  aveley is not the best guide to anything in politics , 3 now I’m fkd as it’s not possible to get 3 positives about anything from aveley except it was great digging ground yrs back 

[gnasher16 29,602]

54 minutes ago, WILF said:

I didn’t realise we’d all turned into sensitive little souls afraid to have our feelings hurt.

You talk about standing shoulder to shoulder, how many stood shoulder to shoulder with you when you were trying to do something about it years ago ?....how many would want to now?

You have said it yourself, you were saying things about the tribes years ago but nobody wanted to listen and they didn’t want anything to do with you.

We have just seen the biggest f***ing of democracy ever........and last week they voted in f***ing David Van Day from poxy Dollar on a Tory ticket round the corner to where I used to live !!........you can bet your bollocks I’m going to have something to say about that no matter where I live !

Thats f***ing rediculous and none of this is going to get mended all the time we are f***ing about being rediculous !

Come on mate, I don’t need to tell you this  

Maybe i dont know....in my f****d up little mind i just feel that having tried and failed i/we have a right to be pissed off but you thought the right wing stuff years ago was a load of old bollocks you,ve said so yourself and maybe you was right but hearing you slate us gets my back up i cant lie....i wouldnt call it being a sensitive little soul though id just call it plain old anger.... your off the same sort of plot as me so i know you wont go all girlie about a bit of anger.

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1 hour ago, ChrisJones said:

Understood but even if everyone was 100% behind a hard Brexit with a unanimous vote immigration will not be tackled while there is either a conservative or a socialist in office. That's a priority.

The priority for me Chris is whatever stops them coming through the door im not educated enough to get political so tell me to sign a form and i,ll sign it,tell me to tick a box and i,ll tick it,but what im not going to do is sit quietly and play ball with parties who dont prioritise what i prioritise.....life is simple for a simple man 

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2 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

The priority for me Chris is whatever stops them coming through the door im not educated enough to get political so tell me to sign a form and i,ll sign it,tell me to tick a box and i,ll tick it,but what im not going to do is sit quietly and play ball with parties who dont prioritise what i prioritise.....life is simple for a simple man 

Understood, mate, and again I can agree with a lot of what you're saying but Britain has been governed by either the conservatives or the socialists for my entire lifetime and Brexit has simply revealed that this particular emperor isn't wearing any clothes. Brexit alone will not stop immigration as neither of these parties are willing to tackle what causes these people to bypass every other country they've migrated through to get to Calais. Until that reason is fixed the problem will still be there.

If we started a colony on the moon. If we offered all the terms and conditions that decades of Labour and Tory rule have assigned that attract people from far and wide we'll still have people lining up on a launch pad at Cape Canaveral trying to get a rocket there to enjoy what we're giving them. Does that make sense? Whatever Brexit you get it won't be an immigration fix but with the current sh*tshow between the big two does a third party have a chance or does a pissed off electorate need to start trying to steer the current mob by actually challenging them to represent their constituents instead of clicking petition links?

It's a tough fix because a lot of this is tied in with Britain's state and trying to sell that idea to roughly half of the nation that disagrees with the referendum result will be impossible if the only angle explored is immigration.

Edited April 8, 2019 by ChrisJones

[Arry 18,514]

Lets hope the Brexit Party takes off then

https://thebrexitparty.org

Cheers Arry

[mackem 23,676]

Says it as it is.....

 

[WILF 44,183]

10 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

Maybe i dont know....in my f****d up little mind i just feel that having tried and failed i/we have a right to be pissed off but you thought the right wing stuff years ago was a load of old bollocks you,ve said so yourself and maybe you was right but hearing you slate us gets my back up i cant lie....i wouldnt call it being a sensitive little soul though id just call it plain old anger.... your off the same sort of plot as me so i know you wont go all girlie about a bit of anger.

No, you know I ain’t going to be girlie about it.......when men have strong opinions about different things sometimes that’s the way it plays out.

Thats just normal.

The right wing stuff (and everything else) turned out to be bollocks imho because we are at where we are at, the message of the NF and it’s like has singularly failed and we have to be honest enough to admit that so that we can say “ok, where do we go from here?”.........when I looked out my window back home I didn’t see an England I recognised anymore.

I saw a mongralised perversion of a country that even the folks who had lived there forever were buying into, never mind all the tribes.

I had one or two dealings with the local MP and councillors and they mistakenly let me into an email chain that proved what I already knew about how much I mattered in this brave new version of England.

I don’t want to feel like I can’t live in my own country anymore but I genuinely felt like a stranger.........I didn’t recognise it, I didn’t understand it and I felt like the alien who was there purely to have the piss taken out of him.

It wasn’t just the spades and lefties, everyone seemed to be on board with all this PC, “I’d like to buy the world a Coke” shit!!.......when even your own are buying in to it what chance have you got?

We can’t as a people keep saying “Keep calm and carry on”, if we don’t recognise where we have and are going boss eyed then we won’t fix it.......sometimes that involves telling uncomfortable home truths !

Im big enough to say, “Yep, I was a prat and bought into all this main party shit once upon a time......I was a fool”

But you know, fool me once shame on them, fool me twice shame on me.

We are getting f****d from all angles and we have to be men enough to admit it and admit we are not doing anything about it because we keep making the same old mistakes.

100 years ago women were throwing themselves under race horses to get the vote......now we are shit scared of a month in the nick if we don’t hand over £1500 to the council !

We are paying through the nose for our own destruction and voting for it time after time......that’s no slagging anyone off, it’s just a basic truth.

Edited April 8, 2019 by WILF

[mushroom 12,352]

3 hours ago, WILF said:

No, you know I ain’t going to be girlie about it.......when men have strong opinions about different things sometimes that’s the way it plays out.

Thats just normal.

The right wing stuff (and everything else) turned out to be bollocks imho because we are at where we are at, the message of the NF and it’s like has singularly failed and we have to be honest enough to admit that so that we can say “ok, where do we go from here?”.........when I looked out my window back home I didn’t see an England I recognised anymore.

I saw a mongralised perversion of a country that even the folks who had lived there forever were buying into, never mind all the tribes.

I had one or two dealings with the local MP and councillors and they mistakenly let me into an email chain that proved what I already knew about how much I mattered in this brave new version of England.

I don’t want to feel like I can’t live in my own country anymore but I genuinely felt like a stranger.........I didn’t recognise it, I didn’t understand it and I felt like the alien who was there purely to have the piss taken out of him.

It wasn’t just the spades and lefties, everyone seemed to be on board with all this PC, “I’d like to buy the world a Coke” shit!!.......when even your own are buying in to it what chance have you got?

We can’t as a people keep saying “Keep calm and carry on”, if we don’t recognise where we have and are going boss eyed then we won’t fix it.......sometimes that involves telling uncomfortable home truths !

Im big enough to say, “Yep, I was a prat and bought into all this main party shit once upon a time......I was a fool”

But you know, fool me once shame on them, fool me twice shame on me.

We are getting f****d from all angles and we have to be men enough to admit it and admit we are not doing anything about it because we keep making the same old mistakes.

100 years ago women were throwing themselves under race horses to get the vote......now we are shit scared of a month in the nick if we don’t hand over £1500 to the council !

We are paying through the nose for our own destruction and voting for it time after time......that’s no slagging anyone off, it’s just a basic truth.

I'd be interested to see that email Wilf. With names and emails etc redacted/removed. 

[WILF 44,183]

4 hours ago, mackem said:

Says it as it is.....

 

That Afd have the right idea, they dress, look and sound the part which makes it very hard to just chuck the “nazi thug” shit at them and make it stick......when normal common sense is branded “Far right extremism” then you need folks who can frame it correctly.........a party that your normal joe soap can be associated with and not have to fear being ridiculed and slagged off as being a “thick nazi loon”.

Just to add, the only reasons Le Pen didn’t win is because they brought all the forces to bare to make her loose and because of who her dad is......other than that, she’d be president of France.

Just let that sink in........we ain’t that far away in Europe, we are on the cusp in many countries of restoring some sanity and British voters and British people need to do their bit.

If Britain caves in and lets them c**ts get away with what they are getting away with then I don’t know.......the politicians won’t make the same mistake twice and we won’t get a better chance.

Edited April 8, 2019 by WILF

[WILF 44,183]

1 minute ago, mushroom said:

I'd be interested to see that email Wilf. With names and emails etc redacted/removed. 

Mate, it was nearly 5 years ago.....that’s long gone I’m afraid.

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3 minutes ago, WILF said:

Mate, it was nearly 5 years ago.....that’s long gone I’m afraid.

Depending the email account you have it's possible it's laying in you history/archive somewhere. Be a shame if it leaked out to the public because someone managed to hack your account

[WILF 44,183]

1 minute ago, mushroom said:

Depending the email account you have it's possible it's laying in you history/archive somewhere. Be a shame if it leaked out to the public because someone managed to hack your account

It’s wasn’t that big a deal mate, I mean it isn’t Watergate or anything.......

It was just along the lines of I was getting all the “yes sir, no sir, we will do our best for you sir” emails from the MP......then when I got the full chain it became obvious he was pals with the council bloke I was asking my MP to do something about and the text between those two was basically “who’s this geezer, lets just tell him something and f**k him off because it’s all very tiresome” type deal.

And I thought to myself “yep, there you have it......I’m f**k all other than a piggy bank” 

 

[gnasher16 29,602]

9 hours ago, WILF said:

 

The right wing stuff (and everything else) turned out to be bollocks imho because we are at where we are at, 

We are not where we are because Nationalism failed how can we be we,ve never given Nationalism a go !.....and the reason we didnt give it a go was because people didnt think it was all that important......today Enoch Powell is celebrated for what he said....we said exactly the same and were vilified for it !...what is it an education thing or short haircuts ?

Today people want results without offending anybody your theory of not paying bills is like sneaking in the back door of your own home its too late in the day for all these clever tactical manoeuvres its time we went through the front door,nailed our colours to the mast and if it offends the race mixers or part time patriots too bad we need to put British people first at all costs.We cant be paralysed in fear of Pc culture we have to stop issues being glossed over and just agreeing for a quiet life... theres no Nhs crisis we have an immigration crisis,theres no housing crisis we have an immigration crisis ...our kids are being targeted with race mixing and a constant barrage of pro black to mongrelise us out of existence.

Nobody should be so morally intimidated by political correctness that they think Nationalism is wrong and for me its the ONLY chance we have.

[gnasher16 29,602]

20 hours ago, ChrisJones said:

Understood, mate, and again I can agree with a lot of what you're saying but Britain has been governed by either the conservatives or the socialists for my entire lifetime and Brexit has simply revealed that this particular emperor isn't wearing any clothes. Brexit alone will not stop immigration as neither of these parties are willing to tackle what causes these people to bypass every other country they've migrated through to get to Calais. Until that reason is fixed the problem will still be there.

If we started a colony on the moon. If we offered all the terms and conditions that decades of Labour and Tory rule have assigned that attract people from far and wide we'll still have people lining up on a launch pad at Cape Canaveral trying to get a rocket there to enjoy what we're giving them. Does that make sense? Whatever Brexit you get it won't be an immigration fix but with the current sh*tshow between the big two does a third party have a chance or does a pissed off electorate need to start trying to steer the current mob by actually challenging them to represent their constituents instead of clicking petition links?

It's a tough fix because a lot of this is tied in with Britain's state and trying to sell that idea to roughly half of the nation that disagrees with the referendum result will be impossible if the only angle explored is immigration.

Im not saying Brexit alone will stop immigration Chris im saying Brext proved what peoples priorities are....its just a shame they wont go that one step further in my opinion.