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Correct. Of those nine countries some receive more back in trade within the EU than they  put in.  When they hand the dosh over to Brussels and Brussels then divvies it out to the poorer EU count

If you want to see hatred look at the political left. From antifa to momentum to unite against hate.  We arnt full of hate we are just pissed off.  Being against giving power to the eu isn't

What the latest news has demonstrated is that May's policy of appeasement to the EU was similar to Chamberlain's appeasement towards Hitler in the 1930's. By standing up to the EU and removing any hop

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46 minutes ago, Caravan Monster said:

The numbers on those marches don't really matter, it didn't change anyone's mind. The important thing is to question everything we are told, even by sources such as the government or BBC that most of us would have trusted 20 years ago.  For what it's worth, I wouldn't trust some statements made by the leave side either, but do believe that the broad argument to leave the eu is correct.

One issue both sides are avoiding is european military unification, which we have already been signed up for on the quiet. It's an in depth subject, but worth knowing about:

https://www.ukcolumn.org/series/eu-military-unification

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I don't think anyone was stupid enough to believe 'leave' arguments, I think most leavers were intelligent enough to know that all leave arguments were just gut feelings and beliefs. Nobody knew what would happen, most knew that the traitors, the establishment, the media would all try to destroy brexit and some would love brexit to be a disaster rather than see Britain do well. Many remainers are the same type of people that want north Korea to launch a nuke just to make trump look bad. 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

 Crunch meetings and tweeks don’t look like they cut it substantial change to the deal maybe but the same fk up  not happening so it seems 

 

i think there is going to be one fkn big shit storm  not to far away 

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27 minutes ago, Arry said:

No deal is the best deal.

Cheers Arry

How in gods name were we going to get anything from the likes of cnt Barnier and the prize cnt of eu Verhofstadt ??  And may and her remainer crunch meeting  thrash it out bend over to the eu  negotiation  charade No nay never so no deal or remain joined to the slags we want to get away from  drunk cnt er 

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We believe no deal is best. But we have to admit its split the nation. No deal has in many ways been taken off the table by parliament, so mays deal is the 'hardest' brexit possible. Let's just get it through and if brexiteers feel so strongly then they will all vote for the brexit party, or pro brexit Conservatives at the next election and it will be game on. 

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2 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

We believe no deal is best. But we have to admit its split the nation. No deal has in many ways been taken off the table by parliament, so mays deal is the 'hardest' brexit possible. Let's just get it through and if brexiteers feel so strongly then they will all vote for the brexit party, or pro brexit Conservatives at the next election and it will be game on. 

Let’s just hope a friendly nation vetos us in the delay and we’re out by default

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1 minute ago, DIDO.1 said:

We believe no deal is best. But we have to admit its split the nation. No deal has in many ways been taken off the table by parliament, so mays deal is the 'hardest' brexit possible. Let's just get it through and if brexiteers feel so strongly then they will all vote for the brexit party, or pro brexit Conservatives at the next election and it will be game on. 

Cons party are finished after this fiasco and labour errrm who are they for ? The working man or the social welfare immigrant ?? Enough said of both party’s 

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2 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

We believe no deal is best. But we have to admit its split the nation. No deal has in many ways been taken off the table by parliament, so mays deal is the 'hardest' brexit possible. Let's just get it through and if brexiteers feel so strongly then they will all vote for the brexit party, or pro brexit Conservatives at the next election and it will be game on. 

No deal is the only legal option and it’s only split the nation because the propaganda machine has been telling everyone it’s bad for them for the last 2years ?

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2 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

We believe no deal is best. But we have to admit its split the nation. No deal has in many ways been taken off the table by parliament, so mays deal is the 'hardest' brexit possible. Let's just get it through and if brexiteers feel so strongly then they will all vote for the brexit party, or pro brexit Conservatives at the next election and it will be game on. 

Think Bercow might have shafted her deal now. Her deal is very flawed IMO.

Cheers Arry

 

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13 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

Cons party are finished after this fiasco and labour errrm who are they for ? The working man or the social welfare immigrant ?? Enough said of both party’s 

I disagree, it's labour or cons I think. Iv spent a lot of time campaigning for ukip and before them for various nationalist parties. And conservatives when I felt that was the best option. 

All the talk of civil unrest and the rise of ukip or another new party....it will come down to the risk of labour, perhaps propped up by another party or the conservatives. We need to look at candidates rather than rosette colour and put pro hunting pro British mps in parliament 

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