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3 minutes ago, Sarge1974 said:

It's all good and well repeating the old sovereignty lines, it's not so good if it puts us up shit creek financially just for the thrill of being plastic William Wallace's. 

Well the onus is on you to provide some evidence that it will do that because other wise you’re merely speculating as well as ignoring the fact that for a lot of people it couldn’t get any worse

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Correct. Of those nine countries some receive more back in trade within the EU than they  put in.  When they hand the dosh over to Brussels and Brussels then divvies it out to the poorer EU count

If you want to see hatred look at the political left. From antifa to momentum to unite against hate.  We arnt full of hate we are just pissed off.  Being against giving power to the eu isn't

What the latest news has demonstrated is that May's policy of appeasement to the EU was similar to Chamberlain's appeasement towards Hitler in the 1930's. By standing up to the EU and removing any hop

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1 minute ago, Sarge1974 said:

You don't think a reluctance to take a hard brexit is evidence of this? I know folk like to think they are only out there to benefit themselves but do you believe it would be any easier on us if they believe it will be worse for them?

No I dont

we don’t stand to lose large eu pensions

we don’t stand to lose positions in companies

 

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17 minutes ago, Sarge1974 said:

It's all good and well repeating the old sovereignty lines, it's not so good if it puts us up shit creek financially just for the thrill of being plastic William Wallace's. 

Welcome back, Kearney/dog fox been a while ??

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23 hours ago, Balaur said:

I believed all this. I thought of the last thirty years, during which I was fighting with others whose friendship and comradeship I hope I will lose from tonight, because I do not value any friendship that is not founded upon confidence and trust. I was in earnest. What a fool I was. I was only a puppet, and so was Ulster, and so was Ireland, in the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into power. And of all the men in my experience that I think are the most loathsome it is those who will sell their friends for the purpose of conciliating their enemies, and, perhaps, still worse, the men who climb up a ladder into power of which even I may have been part of a humble rung, and then, when they have got into power, kick the ladder away without any concern for the pain, or injury, or mischief, or damage that they do to those who have helped them to gain power. Written in 1921 still holds true...  Not Balaur that was me but fooked up the post

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As I tried to point out to you earlier for a lot of people it’s very bad

weve had austerity for years 

we aren’t prospering as a country 

theres no guarantee things would be better if people hadn’t voted out

The eu has held a lot of people back 

saw a lot of farmers go under

There are a lot of people for whom things can’t get worse

im glad you’re not one of them but you might like to try envisioning how it is for them

 

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Just now, Sarge1974 said:

So now the cuts are blamed on the EU and not our very own Labour party? 

No I wasn’t blaming austerity on the eu

i was pointing out how we weren’t prospering within the eU and haven’t for a very long time

its benefited large companies and corporations and driven small business and farms under 

Feel free to address any of the other points I have raised at any time

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