fred90 3,090 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 talking to a chap this morning about hares dying of myxi.his theory is all the recent problem with hare coursing criminal damage. landowners being assaulted. get rid of the hares problem solved.has a strain been deliberately released?what do you think? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 23,692 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, fred90 said: has a strain been deliberately released? Unlikely,it’s not as if farmer brown has the knowledge and facilities to knock up a hare virus in his kitchen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, fred90 said: talking to a chap this morning about hares dying of myxi.his theory is all the recent problem with hare coursing criminal damage. landowners being assaulted. get rid of the hares problem solved.has a strain been deliberately released?what do you think? No, no one cares enough about hare coursing to fund a covert virology team. LOL Virus's mutate and cross species naturally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 24,843 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Born Hunter said: No, no one cares enough about hare coursing to fund a covert virology team. LOL Virus's mutate and cross species naturally. isn't that how bird flue started at the end of the great war...was a docu about it a few week back....they even new the first victim an American soldier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, TOMO said: isn't that how bird flue started at the end of the great war...was a docu about it a few week back....they even new the first victim an American soldier Not sure mate. I don't know much about it at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,166 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 hours ago, fred90 said: talking to a chap this morning about hares dying of myxi.his theory is all the recent problem with hare coursing criminal damage. landowners being assaulted. get rid of the hares problem solved.has a strain been deliberately released?what do you think? Easier and legal to just go out with a lamp and shoot them I would imaging if they were attracting that much unwanted attention, maybe we would have a better understanding of it if we were still out coursing, sure it would of flagged up sooner if we were Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,032 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 The sooner hares are wiped out the better, they're just an excuse for Jeremy Kyle loving tracksuit wearing ne'er do wells to trespass where they think fit. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,203 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 How different is the myxi between rabbits & hares? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 12 hours ago, maxhardcore said: Then you have Fooking stupid scientists messing with nature re coming up with the likes of mixi Myxi wasn't created by scientists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,450 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 21 hours ago, fred90 said: talking to a chap this morning about hares dying of myxi.his theory is all the recent problem with hare coursing criminal damage. landowners being assaulted. get rid of the hares problem solved.has a strain been deliberately released?what do you think? VERY unlikely! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: Where did mixi come from initially Born ? Where do any virus's come from initially, they just evolve. It was first documented in imported laboratory rabbits in Uruguay. It's lethality was recognised as being useful for rabbit control and was then simply artificially released. I haven't seen any literature that shows it having been modified or created to enhance it's effect. If it has jumped the species barrier, it's not surprising. Hopefully we can mitigate the impact. But given that myxi spread so fast due to the burrowing nature of rabbits, it may have a harder time spreading through hares that have much less contact with each other. Fundamentally agriculture is the hares biggest threat. This will just be another straw on the camels back. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 14,553 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 I live in east anglia , I know several landowners farmers and Keepers not one of those lads have even seen a hare being coursed by an organised criminal gang for a few years it’s all nonsense , hammer the police on twitter and the stories slowly start coming apart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 14,553 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 13 hours ago, maxhardcore said: Anyone wanting to wipe out a species just to keep Lads off the land are Fooking idiots . Bring back hunting in all its glory. Try put back some respect into folk re the countryside and all the flaura and fauna . Hammer those driving land illegally dish out heavy jail time for those doing so then using violence when challenged . And get the countryside managed by those that know and understand it as it once was. Everything in GB seems to have gone to shit since the ban on many fronts. So your seriously saying lads that drive land should be jailed For killing big rabbits ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I live in east anglia , I know several landowners farmers and Keepers not one of those lads have even seen a hare being coursed by an organised criminal gang for a few years it’s all nonsense , hammer the police on twitter and the stories slowly start coming apart I dunno what the definition of 'organised criminal gangs' is but if you're meaning just 4x4s driving fields tipping dogs out on hares then come to lincs and look at any field. Last season I saw three different lots of lads out driving fields in the same day on the same land. Loads of others through the season and shit loads of fields with the characteristic 4x4 tramlines around the circumference. It happens shit loads but it's impact on hare conservation nationally is most likely negligible which I'd agree is propaganda. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 38 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: Just because we can't prove the likes of mixi wasn't lab created don't think it couldn't be . Well of course but we generally operate under the principle that if you can't provide evidence for an accusation, then it's without credibility. The burden of proof should never be on the accused. Pretending that scientists have done any of this for any political reason is totally without evidence. 49 minutes ago, maxhardcore said: Even if it was natural it should of been nipped in the bud not spread around the world . Like you Max, I'm not a fan of such examples of biological warfare. But equally neither of us were farmers back when rabbits were at their most problematic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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