Kerny92 1,246 Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 That's not nice at all, i mean how will Pete's Mrs control him on their walk to the park......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,587 Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 3in the right hands there good training tool , but the people who should use them pet owners etc , wouldn't because they think there to cruel ok fair enough .But the people who are the worst using them , are our so called working dog people . he a example , on a shoot i used beat on , a gun's lab dog ran in on another gun's shot bird, so this twat the owner give the dog full wack of its e/collar , the dog went flat across the field, right in to the next field , then across a main road , nearly getting run over by a car . it was fecking right mess what happened , with this prick loosing his temper with the dog. i had go at him, told him what thought of him , which didnt go down with the keeper lol . anyway used to train a dog to leave sheep etc , they very good thing, but you still havent got to give the dog full wack , you can build it up, 1st, wack , try 2nd wack, if the dog dont take notice , most dogs get the idea after few wacks, if stops dog grabbing a sheep, it prob save it life from getting shot from the farmer . But even though the law on there side, and any dog should be kept on a lead by live stock if there not trained, but it does piss me of regards farmers and sheep/ cattle , they got no REAL thoughts for animals, it not compassion etc like gen pet owner for there dogs, a sheep just £ 50-60 quid in a farmer eyes nothing else , and they all end up on your dinner plate after all . all my lurcher are broke to sheep , and never use a lead they walk to heal through sheep, had few farmers come over giving the big bollocks , dogs should be kept on leads , told them what the dogs doing fook all , there walking to heal, they soon shut up once they see the dogs are well behaved , got no time for them, more so when your on a public path ,alot are arrogant attitude , they never wanted you in the countryside , but they soon want you to use there products grain / meat fook'um . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,568 Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Cheap, political point-scoring ! An easy target, which most of the general public will instinctively dislike.............but very, very few will ever use, and even fewer will understand. DEFRA states that is no case for banning the collars, then, 2 weeks later and with no additional research, decide there IS a case for banning them ! An unpopular government trying to do something 'popular' - "see how much we care.......were banning owners from electrocuting their dogs !" Undiluted, totally transparent bollox ! Michael Gove is a w4nker of the highest order ! 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carraghs Gem 1,675 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 Ive only just found out about this now. i figured a while back that it was only going to be a matter of time but a small percentage of hard headed mutts do benefit from them, hopefully it wont come in over here in eire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,030 Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 Yep very true and if your dog does take off the only way your going to catch the sod is if it pulls the sheep down They think they are helping the dogs but they are not and you can't police it so the people using them badly will still be at it unfortunately Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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