Lurcher stud dogs

[poxon 5,555]

At what age do you lot think in your opinion is a correct age for a dog to be offered as a stud dog to Woking bitches my opinion is the dog as to be no younger than 6yrs old with a good track record of good form of the dogs trade. I see a lot of dogs younger from 2-4yrs old some as young as a year old I’m struggling to see the point in breeding anything from these dogs nothing more than producing a litter. Give us your opinions on how you do things?

[Councilestatekid 1,644]

I agree with you no younger than 6/7.as the first 2 years are training and bringing on then you want at least 4 proven years.to many mediocre dogs being bred from.

[nothernlite 18,023]

All depends in situation and if the dogs from a good line preferably have 3 seasons and proved itself to a decent standard of work and a good temperament why not 

[Saltmoon 2,208]

I'd say no younger then 5 for me have would need 3 good seasons under it's belt at least ? I've always thought about one day breeding a litter but I'd worrie about rehoming the pups and what wollys would end up with them 

[darbo 4,774]

ive never bred nor let a dog out for stud.5 a decent age for me for a dog that ticks all the boxes and a good temperament is  paramount.

[Phil Lloyd 10,736]

1 hour ago, poxon said:

At what age do you lot think in your opinion is a correct age for a dog to be offered as a stud dog to Woking bitches my opinion is the dog as to be no younger than 6yrs old with a good track record of good form of the dogs trade. I see a lot of dogs younger from 2-4yrs old some as young as a year old I’m struggling to see the point in breeding anything from these dogs nothing more than producing a litter. Give us your opinions on how you do things?

Personally,...when choosing a performance type stud dog,..a beast that is required to pass on, specialist attributes,...I would like to know just who is coming to the party.

 However, for a roustabout rabbiting dog, I would not hesitate in using an obvious 'hunter, seeker, finder and catcher',..at an early age...

[poxon 5,555]

45 minutes ago, Phil Lloyd said:

Personally,...when choosing a performance type stud dog,..a beast that is required to pass on, specialist attributes,...I would like to know just who is coming to the party.

 However, for a roustabout rabbiting dog, I would not hesitate in using an obvious 'hunter, seeker, finder and catcher',..at an early age...

Phil I respect your opinion But how are you going to tell from a young stud just by what you see on the day if traints you don’t like that could manifest  could be passed on or under laying like pulling up/picking runs a complete throw in the towel I thought with breeding your own replacements your trying to iron out any problems that might occur later down the line to see if the dogs a good un or not for future breeding of replacements what’s your thoughts Phil I know your a experienced guy 

[trenchfoot 4,243]

Sometimes, If you really have something special,  leaving it until 6 years is too late. They often fail to make old bones.

 

[poxon 5,555]

19 minutes ago, trenchfoot said:

Sometimes, If you really have something special,  leaving it until 6 years is too late. They often fail to make old bones.

 

I get what your saying mate  but some of these dogs up at stud there not interested in a pup out the litter it’s the money generated there interested in From the stud point of view but I sort of get what your saying from a bitch point of view but isn’t that just the gamble you have to take same as every night/day you take the dog out to work it could be it’s last but breeding from a young stud if your bitch is good isn’t it the same chances of the bitch dieing on the job as breeding a good un from that bitch out of a young stud.....maybe I over think stuff lol I do get what your saying though trenchfoot An cheers for you input

[poxon 5,555]

Maybe I could try ask the question worded different: with a young stud dog you intend to breed from how whould you try An gauge on what’s underlying in the dog or any future problems that may show its self a little further on in the working career of the dog 

[poxon 5,555]

I’m not trying to be a one track minded smart ass that thinks his opinion is the only opinion that is correct I’m a very open minded  guy I take all on bored if it makes sense but I’m just trying to pick the mines of the more experienced to take onboard any information I’m in the mine if you don’t ask you don’t get an useful information is always handy from the experienced guys I think this is were most working dog lads go wrong there afraid to ask questions In fear of making there self look less a dog men 

[Phil Lloyd 10,736]

1 hour ago, poxon said:

Phil I respect your opinion But how are you going to tell from a young stud just by what you see on the day if traints you don’t like that could manifest  could be passed on or under laying like pulling up/picking runs a complete throw in the towel I thought with breeding your own replacements your trying to iron out any problems that might occur later down the line to see if the dogs a good un or not for future breeding of replacements what’s your thoughts Phil I know your a experienced guy 

 It is good to listen to everyone's opinions,..that is how we learn..

With a rabbiting dog, I like to watch a potential Stud at his work, several times,...I am looking for a dog that will offer something different/better, than my own animal. 

If a dog is acting in the manner that suits me, I will use him across a suitable bitch,...

It is difficult to gauge exactly, how a young dog might act, after six or seven years rabbiting,..anything could happen..there are no guarantees...

Catching rabbits used to be my occupation, so I reckon to know what I need,...it ain't rocket science...

Like I say, this is a personal way of thinking,...everyone should follow their own path,...I always do...

 

 

[poxon 5,555]

2 minutes ago, Phil Lloyd said:

 It is good to listen to everyone's opinions,..that is how we learn..

With a rabbiting dog, I like to watch a potential Stud at his work, several times,...I am looking for a dog that will offer something different/better, than my own animal. 

If a dog is acting in the manner that suits me, I will use him across a suitable bitch,...it is difficult to gauge exactly, how this dog might act, after six or seven years rabbiting.

Catching rabbits used to be my occupation, so I know what I need,...it ain't rocket science...

Like I say, this is a personal way of thinking,...everyone should follow their own path,...I always do...

 

 

Good man Phil  

[Black neck 15,161]

1 hour ago, poxon said:

I’m not trying to be a one track minded smart ass that thinks his opinion is the only opinion that is correct I’m a very open minded  guy I take all on bored if it makes sense but I’m just trying to pick the mines of the more experienced to take onboard any information I’m in the mine if you don’t ask you don’t get an useful information is always handy from the experienced guys I think this is were most working dog lads go wrong there afraid to ask questions In fear of making there self look less a dog men 

Fecking know it all

[C.green 3,203]

Some will never put there lurcher up for public stud. To me when something gets popular its starts going downhill. I only keep lurcher dogs and im lucky ive access to abit of running so ive been asked a few times its not often ill say yes. Youll find alot of times people will use a dog hoping to fix bad traits in a bitch that doesnt work either best to breed strength to strength not to weaknesses