ChrisJones 7,973 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, John d said: The thing to remember is an addict only needs to abstain from something that is a problem in one way or the other. I talk to folk I used to drink with and after telling them I've done however long off it most say "but you still smoke weed" like that is meant to mean something lol I'm not saying weed is better/worse than drink here (well i am but thats a different thread entirely lol) but my point is many folk all around the world can do one or the other with no side effects but on the other side one hits the individuals brain addiction switch and so the fun and games begin lol That's a fair enough comment, mate, but I'm firmly in the 'providing it isn't causing a problem' camp. I do understand how addiction works and if you can't trust yourself then, by all means, stay away from it. However, if you had the occasional beer and didn't start beating the Mrs whilst simultaneously sh*tt*ng yourself I'm not going to be one the to stand there and point the finger, either. I don't buy into the 12 stepper stuff. You cease to be an addict when it ceases to control your life. If you've not had a drop/shot/smoke in 10 years you're not an addict. 21 minutes ago, John d said: On complete abstinence, I'd say it is possible but how far do you go to say complete? No tea/coffee? No prescription drugs if your ill? Look how priests handle complete abstinence. I don't think humans are supposed to be completely abstinent but again if you had a rough week and needed something to take the edge off I wouldn't hold it against you or argue the point about one addiction over another. We'd have a natter and then start over in the morning. That's what your good mates are for. If someone cannot handle that, fair enough, but like I said before life is what happens when you're making other plans. 25 minutes ago, John d said: Like I've said before on here, its something I take an interest in, not because I liked a drink to much either as I'm well over that (honest ) but because it's such a vast amount of folk addicted so many different things (not even stuff you get battered off lol) and will go to such extremes to get whatever they crave! plus is addiction always a bad thing? Can addiction be used in a positive way to beat the negative side to it? Maybe I see it different to others but thats just one of them things! None of that meant with any ill side, just my honest and humble opinion Understood and very recently the World Health Organisation is listing computer gaming addiction as a legit mental health disorder. Not convinced? How many people compulsively check their phones/messages/social media at all hours of the day? I do when I have the opportunity and looking at how it affects certain individuals I'd say it's a legitimate problem to some although I'd bet more would laugh at the idea. Here's the thing though. If you're not sweating. If it's not making you ill. If it's not affecting your school or your job. Your marriage or your family life. Is it a problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Suppose there worse vices seen a guy lose £820 today in the puggies in Ladbrokes. Took him 25 mins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, scothunter said: Suppose there worse vices seen a guy lose £820 today in the puggies in Ladbrokes. Took him 25 mins That's a p*ss*r. Hope it wasn't towards his grocery money for the month. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, ChrisJones said: That's a p*ss*r. Hope it wasn't towards his grocery money for the month. See it all the time mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, scothunter said: See it all the time mate. I work in and around Las Vegas. I know what you're saying! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Jonjon79 said: Well, it's day 3 and I've had no cravings yet. ...... This thing seems to be helping - I don't really like it much so, I'm not using it as much as I was smoking. I did notice this morning, the car stinks of fags - I rarely smoked in there and, always kept an air freshener on the go but, it can't have helped much. ........ I'll get it round to the Romanians for a valet later Treated myself to this bad boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, John d said: That hit a few nerves on there lol I bet it did. Different dopamine hits for different people. Look at those ones that run every morning! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 19,322 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, scothunter said: Treated myself to this bad boy. Takes a while to find the right flavours and settings on your mod and you can easily end up spending loads on gadgets they can be more addictive than the nicotine lol ... but they do work ...I'm currently using a aspire k4 its a nice simple vape no settings just fill her up and blow clouds my only gripe is i get through a few glass tanks but they cheep as chips I got 5 replacement glass tubes for a fiver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, kanny said: Takes a while to find the right flavours and settings on your mod and you can easily end up spending loads on gadgets they can be more addictive than the nicotine lol ... but they do work ...I'm currently using a aspire k4 its a nice simple vape no settings just fill her up and blow clouds my only gripe is i get through a few glass tanks but they cheep as chips I got 5 replacement glass tubes for a fiver I own a few mods and tanks. Clieto is by far the best. Mix my own juice aswell. My current favourite juice is b*****d sauce. Got a litre steeping . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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