GOOD COLLIE X GREY'S THIN ON THE GROUND IT SEEMS.

[NIGHT TIME NETTER 221]

31 minutes ago, colliejohn said:

All this jacking business is aload of nonsense and has regards putting it to a saluki you'd be going backwards a collie has brains feet coat and ample enough speed to catch a rabbit by adding saluki you'd be diluting all the good points at the end of the day we are talking mooching / rabbiting dogs.Regards Collie John

Your safe on your ground with your collie type but to be saying jacking is nonsense in these collie curs is narrow mindedness on your side . Easy rabbiting keeps um happy and focuesd and thats the reason hancock sells these crosses to the flyball brigade.

Put them under pressure because of lack of speed and harder terrain you can get them yapping and jacking.

I prefer a bit of collie 1/8 maybe.

 

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On ‎15‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 13:54, billhardy said:

Yas know some yrs ago there was a few xs of peds X greyhounds about and what I seen of them they all had good speed the ability ta stay a while and they worked cover well ,the Bilco dog was a scratch dog his welps the males covered lots from street curs ta coursing type dogs of the day deerhound greys all the to saluki types they. All performed at there given vocation .theres a lot ta be said fa the right performance breeds ,there's plenty speed ta be found in the non peds ta cover any base breed and they will do a job covering holes etc ,a non ped whippet to me his a type that fits the criteria thirty two pound limit all above are scratch type whippetgrews .the best Bilco bred animal I seen was around twenty two and roach backed his hind set was equally to the back of his head ,stay longer than the deerhound xes we ran  he was mainly a used has a day dog long ears he was way above average did I own him no but my old friend did we both pooled 2pound fifty each so we could get him .legend in the field back here he was he killed them all over  including some fen land.his grandma tail was moss field Margaret illustrious ped breeding .atb bill

bill back in 1972 I used a whippet over a coursing bitch of mine, and seem to remember some of them names the dog was in south yorks and called A1, if any one knows of him, the pups off him had level backs but one of the bitches off him threw a roach back bitch that was very fast and could hang on for ever, I have an odd photo but its a colly thread and my dogs aint collies.lol

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7 minutes ago, billhardy said:

Here we go again some states a positive fact it's decried on its a fact ta da saluki they'll mooch do everything the collie X grey can plus more.and for pulling up jacking call it what yas dam like the proficient xs fa this his collie  greys there's his a few really good ones come along but fa every one there's a lot lot more that start ta show the signs if ya get one that goes three seasons with out the trait getting proninant ya got a good un ,ya know got backwards adding saluki the saluki has everything plus lots more than any greyhound just that many folk ain't seen the plus side to a good line,they have a great constitution and like a pure hill collie can run on anything and I mean anything and that's in pure form and ifs drop added to the collie grey lines they have a big impact .and John I am afraid all this pulling up game has you call it his a known trait of the xs it's not nothing knew ,we know one can jack any type ,but choosing picking his a trait in a collie dog itself the curs of the hill add other bits and bobs added no need da written peds they were so different than those collies used mainly today .phil jumped on the cattle dogs fa either one or two reasons the mentality of the working cattle dogs ,his words same but different. They have on the whole a bite in em and higher prey drive.thats what I see in the cattle dog .and there xes in comparission to collie xs greys , it don't go a miss adding a breed to any types fa the better of the type one breeds hard back to the original type dog breeding that his since existence began and fa those breeders ,they are the key ta keeping a good type going foreward and not stagnating ,buecause has ill say again evolution moves on coneys move on the new generation hunters move on they want animals that will take forty plus coneys three times a week and mooch and ferreting not has I see on utube cumbersome animals that will struggle on winter coneys given a bit law ,I am afraid likeyou me loydeys and perhaps the odd few more we can get by with just a pot dog but these youngster want more they hungry fa better animals 218.   They are the future and so be it.atb bill

Bill I will agree to disagree with you you ain't see many genuine collie greyhounds work because the one's I've seen work and bred don't jack and I certainly don't want a dog chasing every in site what its no chance of catching and what's all this youngsters of today stuff not many youngsters of today keep rabbiting dogs and all this numbers games there's only a few counties in the country what hold good numbers of rabbits its about being out with your dogs and mates in the fresh air and enjoying yourself which I do.Regards Collie John

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11 minutes ago, NIGHT TIME NETTER said:

Your safe on your ground with your collie type but to be saying jacking is nonsense in these collie curs is narrow mindedness on your side . Easy rabbiting keeps um happy and focuesd and thats the reason hancock sells these crosses to the flyball brigade.

Put them under pressure because of lack of speed and harder terrain you can get them yapping and jacking.

I prefer a bit of collie 1/8 maybe.

 

Well mine aren't bred by Hancock and 1/8 is neither near or hear and if like your user name night time netter a collie saturated would suit you lol each to their own pal.Regards Collie John

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11 minutes ago, colliejohn said:

Bill I will agree to disagree with you you ain't see many genuine collie greyhounds work because the one's I've seen work and bred don't jack and I certainly don't want a dog chasing every in site what its no chance of catching and what's all this youngsters of today stuff not many youngsters of today keep rabbiting dogs and all this numbers games there's only a few counties in the country what hold good numbers of rabbits its about being out with your dogs and mates in the fresh air and enjoying yourself which I do.Regards Collie John

What do you call jacking 

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9 minutes ago, colliejohn said:

Well mine aren't bred by Hancock and 1/8 is neither near or hear and if like your user name night time netter a collie saturated would suit you lol each to their own pal.Regards Collie John

Maybe you read to many novles because ive kept lurchers over 40 yrs and ive yet to see 1 run a net at night.

1/8 is plenty for my type of hunting.

 

[colliejohn 840]

2 minutes ago, NIGHT TIME NETTER said:

Maybe you read to many novles because ive kept lurchers over 40 yrs and ive yet to see 1 run a net at night.

1/8 is plenty for my type of hunting.

 

Those what get upto those night time activities usually keep a low profile lol Austen nice to hear from you again it's been a while all the best.Regards Collie John

[mush 204]

Two 1/4 bred collie 3/4 greyhound i had

[colliejohn 840]

1 minute ago, mush said:

Two 1/4 bred collie 3/4 greyhound i had

The bottom has beardie in it with the looks of it.Regards Collie John

[mush 204]

An 1/8 off taffy

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1 hour ago, colliejohn said:

All this jacking business is aload of nonsense and has regards putting it to a saluki you'd be going backwards a collie has brains feet coat and ample enough speed to catch a rabbit by adding saluki you'd be diluting all the good points at the end of the day we are talking mooching / rabbiting dogs.Regards Collie John

their prob bred off collies like the one I scratch about with, she'd throw over thinkers if someone was stupid enough to breed her.

I know your mind is made up but salukis have all those good points listed and then some lol.

think the owner of Sid was on the tv recently, he seems a character

Edited May 16, 2018 by Gilbey
except "coat" ....

[mush 204]

37 minutes ago, colliejohn said:

Bill I will agree to disagree with you you ain't see many genuine collie greyhounds work because the one's I've seen work and bred don't jack and I certainly don't want a dog chasing every in site what its no chance of catching and what's all this youngsters of today stuff not many youngsters of today keep rabbiting dogs and all this numbers games there's only a few counties in the country what hold good numbers of rabbits its about being out with your dogs and mates in the fresh air and enjoying yourself which I do.Regards Collie John

What do call jacking colliejohn.? , if dog starts to run it should continue at speed no matter how far or if the rabbits sitting next to the hedge, in the small fields here there always near a hedge, a dog that hesitate dont catch your dinner

[colliejohn 840]

1 hour ago, mush said:

What do call jacking colliejohn.? , if dog starts to run it should continue at speed no matter how far or if the rabbits sitting next to the hedge, in the small fields here there always near a hedge, a dog that hesitate dont catch your dinner

Listen pal my dogs don't jack so I wouldn't know but I wouldn't want a dog chasing everything that moved with half a brain.Regards Collie John

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1 hour ago, Gilbey said:

their prob bred off collies like the one I scratch about with, she'd throw over thinkers if someone was stupid enough to breed her.

I know your mind is made up but salukis have all those good points listed and then some lol.

think the owner of Sid was on the tv recently, he seems a character

He's called Jim Cropper he's a fantastic dog handler.Regards Collie John

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From what I do an what av seen out of few collie Grey's they start well on teeth  an then get to cute an start picking spots to lift a fox  then go of them also running what they want to run av heard of half cross collie grey killing foxes years ago but av never seen one . friends have bred them started them    time was took with them I wouldn't touch  it if it just had collie in it but I also have no interest in a big heavy bull cross av seen few good collie bull run if you get the right one has sense to catch an touch bull gets the kill end down but takes the right dog/bitch. That's my thoughts on it but IL say IL always try stay collie bull grey