Bad mouth

[cantona 310]

I'm thinking of breeding My bitch and the dog I have in mind is overshot , will the pups follow or is it a lottery 

[Black neck 15,156]

Don't make any difference mate 

[poxon 5,555]

kind of pointless breeding from un structurally sound stock 

[Str 793]

I wouldn’t it’s a daft thing to do as you will pass on this fault to another generation of dogs.

[cantona 310]

Has anyone bred from or no of a breeding from an undershot dog and can answer from experience please

[Str 793]

40 minutes ago, baker boy said:

Both parents have to carry the fault

Both parents may carry the fault and we know for sure one does! Why take the risk? It would just be adding to the shite that’s already for sale.when breeding dogs there’s always the risk of a fault appearing that’s not known about but to knowingly breed from a dog that is not structurally sound is very irresponsible,find a sound stud dog.

[cantona 310]

STR, a bad mouth doesn't make a dog shite mate, it's only cosmetic ! The reason I ask is because of homeing  the surpless pups ,the dog in question work wise far outnumbers looks and as for it being shite ........

[Str 793]

A bad mouth is not a cosmetic fault as the dog will eat, drink,bite & carry things in its mouth, if the pups are born pink then that’s a cosmetic fault for most but not all !! .if it were me I wouldn’t take the risk but it’s up to you at the end of the day, all I will say is if you do sell pups make sure you tell the prospective owners of the fault.

[blackmaggie 3,375]

I have seen more under shot and over shot in terriers than lurchers buddy might be worth asking in the terrier section 

[Black neck 15,156]

1 hour ago, baker boy said:

 

Ive bred from dog and bitch with perfect mouths and have them throw bad mouths, Ive also had a whole litter with good mouths out of an undershot bitch, lurchers tend to throw less bad mouths than terriers all my experience has been with terriers

Undershirt or overshot don't bite any difference 

[Daniel cain 42,793]

14 hours ago, Str said:

A bad mouth is not a cosmetic fault as the dog will eat, drink,bite & carry things in its mouth, if the pups are born pink then that’s a cosmetic fault for most but not all !! .if it were me I wouldn’t take the risk but it’s up to you at the end of the day, all I will say is if you do sell pups make sure you tell the prospective owners of the fault.

Surely they should have the brains to check that before committing to a pup lol? Seen plenty over/undershot never made a blind bit of difference to how they work unless your chasing ribbons in the ring imo. 

[Str 793]

4 hours ago, Daniel cain said:

Surely they should have the brains to check that before committing to a pup lol? Seen plenty over/undershot never made a blind bit of difference to how they work unless your chasing ribbons in the ring imo. 

If you had the choice of a good dog Daniel with a good mouth or a bad one which would you have? I am guessing you would choose a good one? I am not saying a dog with a bad mouth can’t be a good worker but there are lots of good working dogs out there which are sound in body & mind so use one of them.

[roybo 2,873]

Is it overshot or undershot? As in the title it says over shot and further down you out undershot.

I'd use a stud that's mouth wasn't perfect if it was the best possible in every other way and anything  else you could get hold of didn't come close. But if you can get a similar dog that got a better mouth ...,.....

[Daniel cain 42,793]

9 minutes ago, Str said:

If you had the choice of a good dog Daniel with a good mouth or a bad one which would you have? I am guessing you would choose a good one? I am not saying a dog with a bad mouth can’t be a good worker but there are lots of good working dogs out there which are sound in body & mind so use one of them.

Agreed, but I wouldn't [BANNED TEXT] a dog off on that alone?

[cantona 310]

Can't remember if undershoot or overshot to be honest , just remember looking at its mouth when it was younger and noticing it was a bit dodgy, had dogs myself the same in fact got a terrier here now getting on a bit with a bad mouth, hardly any teeth left so it's irrelevant now  anyway!