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I will donate this camera to your cat hunting if you would like it  lumix fz72 60x zoom 

Was out for a walk with the dogs this morning, bumped into a fellow I sort of know through a lot of common interests we often stop for a chat,he hunts a bit and likes his old cars I have something for

Just re reading the whole thread and you’ve come under some real stick mate .Apologies for my part .Doesn’t mean I’m a believer just embarrassing some of the comments 

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9 hours ago, neil82 said:

I`m not going to trawl through this as I have my own opinion on the subject but think of this, if you think there is a vast conspiracy  to cover up large cats being loose the why was there such an uproar over a lynx escaping Borth zoo and the option chosen  by the police and local authorities was death.

Sadly the lynx you mention was killed through incompetence mate not any great decisions and it’s not a conspiracy if people just refuse to acknowledge something, there are very few people with real cat experience in this country so when an animal like that escapes you have the rspca that everyone here really trusts and the police, the lynx was killed because a prick from the council was trying to take photos of it and it kept running off he said he had to confirm what it was which was his excuse it was in an empty caravan park when it was shot and no risk to anyone, so I think you can see an over reaction and a bit of hysteria with one small semi tame escapee ??

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In the words of Max Bygraves , I wanna tell you a story ! This was told to me while I was in the lunch shed , when I was loading on a shoot day with some other keepers a couple of years ago . The one keeper had travelled from Bedfordshire and keepers an estate next to a famous wildlife/ safari park . He told us that he went one evening to feed this duck pond which was in a fenced off compound close to the park. He opened the gate , but then a chill ran down his back and for some reason he quickly shut the gate as he sensed something wasn’t right. Turns out a pregnant lioness had climbed the wire and was in the compound. I he reckons if he had gone  it would have been game over . They recaptured and returned the lioness the following day . He thinks that we have a primeval ability to sense when things are not right and danger is about .  He says that the lack of bird noise and silence focussed the senses and he knew something was wrong. I wonder if that is really the case ? Because if big cats , like say a puma were breeding in this country, when they are close to birth or when they have young they are dangerous , maybe people are able to somehow sense this and steer clear?  I have only met the keeper who told me this a couple of times , so I don’t know him well . Maybe he’s full of BS . But I know a keeper who worked with him well and worked on the same estate and the keepers there were always having to go and shoot escaped chimps or baboons or escaped this or that . It’s all kept hush hush from the public .  So he believes the story. 

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34 minutes ago, shovel leaner said:

In the words of Max Bygraves , I wanna tell you a story ! This was told to me while I was in the lunch shed , when I was loading on a shoot day with some other keepers a couple of years ago . The one keeper had travelled from Bedfordshire and keepers an estate next to a famous wildlife/ safari park . He told us that he went one evening to feed this duck pond which was in a fenced off compound close to the park. He opened the gate , but then a chill ran down his back and for some reason he quickly shut the gate as he sensed something wasn’t right. Turns out a pregnant lioness had climbed the wire and was in the compound. I he reckons if he had gone  it would have been game over . They recaptured and returned the lioness the following day . He thinks that we have a primeval ability to sense when things are not right and danger is about .  He says that the lack of bird noise and silence focussed the senses and he knew something was wrong. I wonder if that is really the case ? Because if big cats , like say a puma were breeding in this country, when they are close to birth or when they have young they are dangerous , maybe people are able to somehow sense this and steer clear?  I have only met the keeper who told me this a couple of times , so I don’t know him well . Maybe he’s full of BS . But I know a keeper who worked with him well and worked on the same estate and the keepers there were always having to go and shoot escaped chimps or baboons or escaped this or that . It’s all kept hush hush from the public .  So he believes the story. 

I don't understand how that has anything to do with big cats breeding over here in the UK though? 

As you say they are extremely protective of their young, still no reports of females attacking people or dogs. 

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Youd think with everyone having a sensible camera on there phone these days someone somewhere wouldve bumped into one. Seen boar wallabies funny types of deer parakeets otters where they meant to be rare or none there. Do find it interesting tho.

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20 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I don't understand how that has anything to do with big cats breeding over here in the UK though? 

As you say they are extremely protective of their young, still no reports of females attacking people or dogs. 

My feeling is , that a breeding female would have made her presence felt or attacked a person or dog . 
       Plus I thought it was an interesting, anecdotal story, roughly on the same lines as this thread that I thought people reading this might find mildly interesting . 

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7 minutes ago, shovel leaner said:

My feeling is , that a breeding female would have made her presence felt or attacked a person or dog . 
       Plus I thought it was an interesting, anecdotal story, roughly on the same lines as this thread that I thought people reading this might find mildly interesting . 

That's what i think too, they're highly protective of their young so why no attacks? 

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14 minutes ago, shovel leaner said:

My feeling is , that a breeding female would have made her presence felt or attacked a person or dog . 
       Plus I thought it was an interesting, anecdotal story, roughly on the same lines as this thread that I thought people reading this might find mildly interesting . 

Someone who the Mrs used to work with lives near Yorkshire Wildlife Park and they said the lions were loud as anything at night calling to each other, I would love that shit. ?

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1 minute ago, Greb147 said:

Someone who the Mrs used to work with lives near Yorkshire Wildlife Park and they said the lions were loud as anything at night calling to each other, I would love that shit. ?

My daughter used to work for a travel company that specialised in Safaris. She got to go on a few as a perk of the job . She stayed in this one camp that was just tents . With nothing more than the canvas between you and whatever was out there . They were told that under no circumstances were they to leave the tent at night . She said there was a scorpion in her tent and she hates insects and spiders, but outside was a lion roaring and it was so loud the tent seemed to vibrate. She stayed in the tent all night with the scorpion and didn’t sleep a wink . She vowed never to go to Africa again.??

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19 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Someone who the Mrs used to work with lives near Yorkshire Wildlife Park and they said the lions were loud as anything at night calling to each other, I would love that shit.

Used to regularly lamp ,by a safari park ,,if the wind is right you can be two or three miles away ,and they sound like they are right next to you ,it's fukin frightening .

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4 minutes ago, Astanley said:

Used to regularly lamp ,by a safari park ,,if the wind is right you can be two or three miles away ,and they sound like they are right next to you ,it's fukin frightening .

I would love it tbh, you're talking about Knowsley? 

I think a Lions call can travel up to 5 mile. 

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4 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

I would love it tbh, you're talking about Knowsley? 

I think a Lions call can travel up to 5 mile. 

Mate ,it's a weird thing ,you know they are miles away ,but it's not a distant roar you hear ,its RIGHT next to you and in a sort of surround sound ,there are a couple of lads off here who grew up lamping and poaching in there and they have some hilarious ,hair raising stories .

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