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I sometimes think you are digging a huge hole greyman by admitting to know and rate these  “experts”.

If I were you I’d go it alone as you seem far sainer than most of the mentors you deal with .

Just an honest opinion mate and not meant to offend .

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that's all it is different opinions, daft calling each other. Mostly news and other peoples pics folk are on about

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4 hours ago, Greyman said:

Your only a short jaunt up the motorway mate if you think I,m bonkers come and meet me, at least some people on here have that level of decency, and of all the people I,ve met I don’t think any have said I,m a looney, they may not believe or agree with me but they have made an effort and made up there own minds,  I,ll be at the fishing comp this year again come along and have a chat, I,ll show you things I can’t put on here and you can ask me all you like, you can even raise a pound or two for charity,, may I just ask you why would anyone show you anything of relevance with your attitude, most people I meet who have had an encounter are really happy to talk with someone who has a bit of knowledge and won’t stoop to piss taking and ridiculing them, I actually go out looking up to 3 days a week and find one or two things a year that convince me I,m right, how much time and effort do you put in to say I,m wrong ??? 

Your comments are bang out of order, show me some evidence, stop hiding behind ridiculous posts or comments, just what is the secret all about.

I'm out all over the country all the time and have been for nearly 50 years, I also have guys that work for me in many other parts of the country, and I know large numbers of people in the pest control and gamekeeper business nationwide, that amounts to being out far more than you.

EVIDENCE is required, not opinion or suggestion or stupid pictures of domestic cats or deer eaten by fox etc.

Seems some of us have far more experience than others and know far more how nature/the country side works than others.

Breeding population of 250, get real!

Kindly note I have never said never, you are out of order, and just what is my attitude, :laugh:, so nobody will show me any proof because of my attitude and you can't put stuff up here! :laugh::laugh::laugh:?

Produce a BIG CAT carcase and get in touch, I will gladly meet you and see: I don't have an attitude, although in your case I'm thinking about developing one!.

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2 hours ago, Deker said:

Your comments are bang out of order, show me some evidence, stop hiding behind ridiculous posts or comments, just what is the secret all about.

I'm out all over the country all the time and have been for nearly 50 years, I also have guys that work for me in many other parts of the country, and I know large numbers of people in the pest control and gamekeeper business nationwide, that amounts to being out far more than you.

EVIDENCE is required, not opinion or suggestion or stupid pictures of domestic cats or deer eaten by fox etc.

Seems some of us have far more experience than others and know far more how nature/the country side works than others.

Breeding population of 250, get real!

Kindly note I have never said never, you are out of order, and just what is my attitude, :laugh:, so nobody will show me any proof because of my attitude and you can't put stuff up here! :laugh::laugh::laugh:?

Produce a BIG CAT carcase and get in touch, I will gladly meet you and see: I don't have an attitude, although in your case I'm thinking about developing one!.

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10 hours ago, Deker said:

Your comments are bang out of order, show me some evidence, stop hiding behind ridiculous posts or comments, just what is the secret all about.

I'm out all over the country all the time and have been for nearly 50 years, I also have guys that work for me in many other parts of the country, and I know large numbers of people in the pest control and gamekeeper business nationwide, that amounts to being out far more than you.

EVIDENCE is required, not opinion or suggestion or stupid pictures of domestic cats or deer eaten by fox etc.

Seems some of us have far more experience than others and know far more how nature/the country side works than others.

Breeding population of 250, get real!

Kindly note I have never said never, you are out of order, and just what is my attitude, :laugh:, so nobody will show me any proof because of my attitude and you can't put stuff up here! :laugh::laugh::laugh:?

Produce a BIG CAT carcase and get in touch, I will gladly meet you and see: I don't have an attitude, although in your case I'm thinking about developing one!.

If your all over the country it would take even less effort to pop in, 😫😫😫

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11 hours ago, foxdropper said:

I sometimes think you are digging a huge hole greyman by admitting to know and rate these  “experts”.

If I were you I’d go it alone as you seem far sainer than most of the mentors you deal with .

Just an honest opinion mate and not meant to offend .

To a degree I am doing my own thing, but by joining with other people it gives me access to laboratory,s vets, dna, and much more stuff, if you went to a meeting held by Rick minter you would realise he is not a nut job but a government advisor on many wildlife issues, qualified biologist and all round decent bloke who has also been bitten after a chance sighting, Rick does talks and slide shows all round England and has done more to get the subject recognised than anyone else and as I said talking to any paper is also a massive risk as you have no say in how they interpret what you have said, a bit like on here ✌️✌️✌️

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3 minutes ago, Greyman said:

To a degree I am doing my own thing, but by joining with other people it gives me access to laboratory,s vets, dna, and much more stuff, if you went to a meeting held by Rick minter you would realise he is not a nut job but a government advisor on many wildlife issues, qualified biologist and all round decent bloke who has also been bitten after a chance sighting, Rick does talks and slide shows all round England and has done more to get the subject recognised than anyone else and as I said talking to any paper is also a massive risk as you have no say in how they interpret what you have said, a bit like on here ✌️✌️✌️

Would you class the more publicised big cat expert Jonathan McGowan in the same league as rick minter mate?

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38 minutes ago, Greyman said:

If your all over the country it would take even less effort to pop in, 😫😫😫

It would take even less effort for you to post the amazing evidence you have here!

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Any chance of the above  greyman? Even one piece that would make doubters scratch their heads ?

Also where are you based?

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7 hours ago, Rusty_terrier said:

Any chance of the above  greyman? Even one piece that would make doubters scratch their heads ?

Also where are you based?

Starting to get a little bit nit pickie again and most of the questions have been asked before and answered several times, but for anyone that is interested this is just one small area I,ve been round this morning, thought if I took a few pics it would help, the landscape is almost always the same from Scotland to Cornwall, I,m looking for a tree covered ridge overlooking vast areas of flat pasture land, the ridge especially in winter has to be running from north to south and your target will be on the side that picks up the favourable winds, ie southerlys and westerlys and definitely not easterlys, this is the same all over the world and by sitting on this side of the ridges all smells will be brought to them if there is a circular bowl in the landscape it will funnel smells and noises to the cat so it knows were it’s prey is before it even goes looking, this land is less than 10miles from the city centre and I very rarely see another person in the flesh or on the cameras, in the bottoms of the gulleys  you have a water supply and also plenty of food and if there was a cat laying on the canopy we would all walk underneath it totally un aware in this entire area I will be looking for one very stealthy animal that sees hears and smells me a long time before I get close to it, lastly I get one or two pics a year sent to me that I,m asked not to share and if anyone here asked me the same I would respect it, i,m not in it to make money or fame I just need to answer it for myself, I have in the past dug fox and badger for years without ever looking over my shoulder, I sold £1000s of pelts tails wings and masks, have coursed a 100 hares in a season even done a bit on the trout and salmon, so I have nothing to prove to anyone, I,m just on my own little mission enjoying myself and for some strange reason it seems to upset a few, but I really really don’t care, I,m a bit of a loner and if I was the last man on earth i,d be happy as a pig in shit, I don’t seek or want anyone’s approval and if you don’t believe me that’s fine I respect your opinions, the people who say to me when I see one I will believe it are the most sensible of all in my opinion ✌️✌️✌️✌️

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how did you come on with the cub video that you showed a member on here? You were sending it over to someone that knows cats. Don't know if its been asked before without trailing through the thread

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So all these "experts" roaming around the country with camera traps etc for the last few years and not a single picture, body or remains of one, not a single road kill or even feaces, basically no evidence? Hardly experts lol. 

Or perhaps because there's nothing to find🤔

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49 minutes ago, sandymere said:

So all these "experts" roaming around the country with camera traps etc for the last few years and not a single picture, body or remains of one, not a single road kill or even feaces, basically no evidence? Hardly experts lol. 

Or perhaps because there's nothing to find🤔

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1 hour ago, Gilbey said:

how did you come on with the cub video that you showed a member on here? You were sending it over to someone that knows cats. Don't know if its been asked before without trailing through the thread

At the beginning of all this when I first mentioned it I was asked by the collective on here if I would show someone that was elected by the members on here and considered trustworthy, the person that was elected to view it was socks, I drove 45miles each way to meet him at a pre arranged place near his home and shared a good breakfast with the man, we had never met before and both new nothing of the other, Ken is a very well travelled and knowledgable countryman with a wealth of experience he saw the video and put up his conclusion which was the same as mine that it was a large young cat the species not quite clear but certainly not a domestic, if I could upload it to my iPad I would show it but I don’t have the means or knowledge to do it at this time, I caught the same animal twice in the space of a week before it left the area as I never saw it again despite many cameras in the area for a further year, here is a still photo taken of my computer screen so lots of quality lost, also the movement of the animal and the thickness of its legs when it’s running are lost but you will have an ideal, you can see it if you want to attend the fishing comp and make your own conclusion I also have several more better than I,ve shown on here but they were given me in trust for that reason I will never publish them but I am happy to show them face to face and maybe by the next match I will have more ✌️

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I do get lots of ferals like this so am not confused in any way, have had ferals up trees in earths and everywhere in between 

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