Greb147 6,808 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, socks said: Looks like a male Jaguar to me. That would be a much more realistic call than a Leopard but even that would be a Jaguar on roids. Was there a video clip of this or just stills, just the one pic, I still smell hoax. Link to post Share on other sites
Gilbey 1,408 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Some pics of it in the rush as well. Just a dog ratching about imo Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Never get pics like this or road kill in the UK and we live in a very heavily populated country. New mountain lion sighting, this time in Bernal Heights HOODLINE.COM Another mountain lion has made it into the urban wilds of San Francisco, and it was spotted in Bernal Heights on... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SONOFSOIL 215 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Greb147 said: You and your expert friends must be supping that strong cider if you think that has the dimensions of a male leopard. I've been interested in big cats since I was a nipper, send your experts to my cab and I'll set them straight. I'll say it again, that ain't no leopard. Looks like a smooth patterdale to me 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Greb147 said: Extremely unlikely as there's always a conflict of species, there's no evidence at all to suggest leopards breed with pumas and produce fertile offspring. Why do they not produce fertile offspring greb? Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,133 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Francie said: Why do they not produce fertile offspring greb? Look up 'species versus genus' francie. Explains it pretty clear to understand. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Chinese zoo sorry it didn't tell public 3 leopards escaped into city 3 weeks ago MOTHERSHIP.SG The zoo only disclosed the escape to the public after the leopards were spotted roaming around nearby villages. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,258 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Francie said: Why do they not produce fertile offspring greb? They do, the victorians used to cross puma and leopards to produce pumards, this is one in an old black and white picture, they actually suffered with dwarfism so produced small offspring and though many were sterile some were not, look at the modern designer cats, bred with servals and domestic house cats they are fertile and breed a second generation which is the ones you can own without a licence 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,258 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Greb147 said: You and your expert friends must be supping that strong cider if you think that has the dimensions of a male leopard. I've been interested in big cats since I was a nipper, send your experts to my cab and I'll set them straight. I'll say it again, that ain't no leopard. Look at the tape measure in the picture, you must know how to read a tape, same dimensions, the only black leopard in the uk in captivity is a cross breed of two types of leopards and is the same size, if your going to argue at least back it up with more than I like looking at big cats on telly Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,258 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Greb147 said: Here's a pic of a big black leopard, still, nothing like the beast pictured. That is both young and most probably a female looking at it, not a good comparison at all, 1 Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,133 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Greyman said: They do, the victorians used to cross puma and leopards to produce pumards, this is one in an old black and white picture, they actually suffered with dwarfism so produced small offspring and though many were sterile some were not, look at the modern designer cats, bred with servals and domestic house cats they are fertile and breed a second generation which is the ones you can own without a licence Ooh, did I get it wrong G, is it cats of the same genus can produce fertile offspring? Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, Greyman said: They do, the victorians used to cross puma and leopards to produce pumards, this is one in an old black and white picture, they actually suffered with dwarfism so produced small offspring and though many were sterile some were not, look at the modern designer cats, bred with servals and domestic house cats they are fertile and breed a second generation which is the ones you can own without a licence There is no proof of puma/leopard hybrids producing offspring of their own. You also have the fact that no sighting in the UK has described anything like a puma/leopard hybrid. Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, Greyman said: Look at the tape measure in the picture, you must know how to read a tape, same dimensions, the only black leopard in the uk in captivity is a cross breed of two types of leopards and is the same size, if your going to argue at least back it up with more than I like looking at big cats on telly The dimensions of that obese leopard below is nothing like the reported sighting above, just look at the massive shoulder development, wild leopards are not close to those dimensions. Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,307 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Greb147 said: The dimensions of that obese leopard below is nothing like the reported sighting above, just look at the massive shoulder development, wild leopards are not close to those dimensions. Tbf its a bad quality picture so hard to see shpulder develpoment Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: Tbf its a bad quality picture so hard to see shpulder develpoment You can see the mass of the thing, terrible quality or not. Link to post Share on other sites
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