Tommy Robinson How Is He Viewed In Britain At The Moment

[foxdropper 17,092]

If you think we marched for anyone person Chris you are a fool .For the first time in years ,decades even ,the streets of our capital were walked by Englishmen and it was plain to see those who may of had motives to disrupt the march were cowering in their shit holes .

This will only bring more strength and feeling to those present and will undoubtedly lead to more support .

The rights or wrongs of Tommies arrest pale into insignificance when faced with the greater problem .Again you seem to gloat over our misfortune ,something which your adopted country isn't immune from mate .

Tommy would have known the consequences but did it anyway ,not to be a martyr but because it needed doing .I have a feeling this country will see a lot more laws broken in the coming years by ordinary folk fed up with oppression .

For those who went on Saturday ,the world now looks a lot Rosier for it I can tell you .

[WILF 44,187]

Total media blackout on the BBC

[Gav 1,708]

25 minutes ago, WILF said:

Total media blackout on the BBC

Is that really a surprise from them, they never report anything that's not in their interest or against their views! 

[slip lead 862]

23rd June from Victoria station

its going to be massive

[sandymere 8,260]

How is he viewed in Britain today? perhaps this would be representative of the middle ground.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)

and this a view of his current predicament.

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/

 

[WILF 44,187]

20 minutes ago, sandymere said:

How is he viewed in Britain today? perhaps this would be representative of the middle ground.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)

and this a view of his current predicament.

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/

 

That second link sounds unbiased ! Lol

As a left leaning person, do you think the left has done itself any favours by trying to stifle debate, shouting down and calling names anyone who they don’t agree with.....indeed making laws to stop speech they don’t approve of? 

I mean, a person may find what another is saying abhorrent but surely the best remedy is to let them say it and then decent people can make up their mind.......pushing the debate under ground surely only lets the hatred fester?

Name calling isn’t really helping is it?

[tilimangro 1,013]

As much as I applaud what tommy did he was in the wrong 

the left are desperate to discredit tommy but it looks like this has been the touch stone to set something off

i think Tommy’s a nob and attention seeking but if this is what it takes to wake the country up happy days

all though I  genuinely Worry it will backfire and give the left what they want

[WILF 44,187]

It helped get 20,000 on the street this weekend and there will be another 20,000 again late in the month.........surely that has to be a good thing.

Don’t know if it will have any affect but it’s good all the same imho.......rise in interest rates coming your way shortly if these lads carry on protesting I reckon  

[slip lead 862]

I was at the marches at the weekend and peoples attitudes are changing, and they only just manage to behave for Tommy and his watching family

 

The next one will be different, and how the f**k will they stop 20.000/30.000 DFLA & FLA doing whatever they wont.

 

 

[sandymere 8,260]

56 minutes ago, slip lead said:

I was at the marches at the weekend and peoples attitudes are changing, and they only just manage to behave for Tommy and his watching family

 

The next one will be different, and how the f**k will they stop 20.000/30.000 DFLA & FLA doing whatever they wont.

 

 

And that is the downfall of the of the right wing, their propensity to violence.

when peaceful protests are much more effective in bringing change.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/pop-psych/201702/why-non-violent-protests-work

 

[shepp 2,285]

4 minutes ago, sandymere said:

And that is the downfall of the of the right wing, their propensity to violence.

when peaceful protests are much more effective in bringing change.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/pop-psych/201702/why-non-violent-protests-work

 

Most violent protests are from the left?

So often ANTIFA counter protests are more violent than the protests they are there against protesting against.

 

[sandymere 8,260]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

That second link sounds unbiased ! Lol

As a left leaning person, do you think the left has done itself any favours by trying to stifle debate, shouting down and calling names anyone who they don’t agree with.....indeed making laws to stop speech they don’t approve of? 

I mean, a person may find what another is saying abhorrent but surely the best remedy is to let them say it and then decent people can make up their mind.......pushing the debate under ground surely only lets the hatred fester?

Name calling isn’t really helping is it?

Each has a right to their own opinion  and in the UK we have a degree of free speech under the European convention on human rights  act but in a civilized country there needs to be limitations ie  when that speech harms another.

Good old Wiki cover it well.

 

United Kingdom citizens have a negative right to freedom of expression under the common law.^[149] In 1998, the United Kingdom incorporated the European Convention, and the guarantee of freedom of expression it contains in Article 10, into its domestic law under the Human Rights Act. However, there is a broad sweep of exceptions including threatening, abusive or insulting words or behavior intending or likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress or cause a breach of the peace (which has been used to prohibit racist speech targeted at individuals),^{[150][151][152]} sending any article which is indecent or grossly offensive with an intent to cause distress or anxiety (which has been used to prohibit speech of a racist or anti-religious nature),^{[153][154][155]} incitement,^[156] incitement to racial hatred,^[157] incitement to religious hatred, incitement to terrorism including encouragement of terrorism and dissemination of terrorist publications,^{[156][158][159]} glorifying terrorism,^{[160][161][162]} collection or possession of a document or record containing information likely to be of use to a terrorist,^[163][164] treason including advocating for the abolition of the monarchy (which cannot be successfully prosecuted) or compassing or imagining the death of the monarch,^{[165][166][167][168][169]} sedition (no longer illegal, sedition and seditious libel (as common law offences) were abolished by section 73 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 (with effect on 12 January 2010)),^[166] obscenity,^[170] indecency including corruption of public morals and outraging public decency,^[171] defamation,^[172] prior restraint, restrictions on court reporting including names of victims and evidence and prejudicing or interfering with court proceedings,^[173][174] prohibition of post-trial interviews with jurors,^[174] scandalising the court by criticising or murmuring judges,^[174][175] time, manner, and place restrictions,^[176] harassment, privileged communications, trade secrets, classified material, copyright, patents, military conduct, and limitations on commercial speech such as advertising."

 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

6 hours ago, foxdropper said:

If you think we marched for anyone person Chris you are a fool .For the first time in years ,decades even ,the streets of our capital were walked by Englishmen and it was plain to see those who may of had motives to disrupt the march were cowering in their shit holes .

I honestly don't know. I'm sure that some were marching for injustice as a whole. I'm sure some were just along with the crowd but you only have to go back on this thread to see that to some that TR is a political prisoner! If you think that getting 20,000 people on the streets will help crack on. I applaud the right to demonstrate but you still need 26 million on the ballot or else you're doing nothing more than paying police overtime.

6 hours ago, foxdropper said:

The rights or wrongs of Tommies arrest pale into insignificance when faced with the greater problem .Again you seem to gloat over our misfortune ,something which your adopted country isn't immune from mate .

Tommy would have known the consequences but did it anyway ,not to be a martyr but because it needed doing .I have a feeling this country will see a lot more laws broken in the coming years by ordinary folk fed up with oppression .

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Again not gloating. No need to. Just pointing out what seems blatantly obvious to the rest of the world and for the record once more I'm in agreement that where I am isn't perfect but at least I can call a spade a spade without it being considered a hate crime.

I'll also agree with you that he fully knew the consequences of his actions. He'd either be arrested and martyred or he'd have had the trial thrown out and been able to put up a YouTube video ranting at how these scum are being protected by the system. It was truly win-win for TR.com. as his audience is now fully global.

2 hours ago, WILF said:

That second link sounds unbiased ! Lol

As a left leaning person, do you think the left has done itself any favours by trying to stifle debate, shouting down and calling names anyone who they don’t agree with.....indeed making laws to stop speech they don’t approve of? 

I mean, a person may find what another is saying abhorrent but surely the best remedy is to let them say it and then decent people can make up their mind.......pushing the debate under ground surely only lets the hatred fester?

Name calling isn’t really helping is it?

Labelling anyone that disagrees with you as 'racist' and the cancer of political correctness lies fully at the door of the socialists and the European Union but this is where we see the gigantic f*ck*ng fractures in the system. Successive governments have taken inalienable rights and criminalised them. The constant mantra of diversity and equality taking precedence over freedom as you rightly highlight pushing this underground and allowing it fester.

But this brings us to the real villains of the piece. The ones that TR Media are either completely ignoring or choosing not to report on. It's the people in positions of power that have not only allowed this to happen but have actively, and I'd argue treasonably, dismantled the right to simply be. They've taken great lengths to hide their own incompetence, gone even further to cement a legacy of zero accountability and despite a thousand posts on the subject, I'm the one that's the c*nt for pointing it out!

Edited June 11, 2018 by ChrisJones
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[sandymere 8,260]

5 minutes ago, shepp said:

Most violent protests are from the left?

So often ANTIFA counter protests are more violent than the protests they are there against protesting against.

 

far left violent protest fail too

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/qve8zm/how-british-police-shut-down-the-original-uk-antifa

 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

Just now, sandymere said:

far left violent protest fail too

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/qve8zm/how-british-police-shut-down-the-original-uk-antifa

 

I've read that article before. It's worth the read. Violent offenders get jailed for long enough to make them irrelevant. Look at Guantanamo Bay, there are terrorists in there that still don't know Syria collapsed and others that don't know Gaddafi is dead.