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I have lived and hunted in the US, from Ireland and I am now in Canada. For dog work you can' beat home.

 

Also - how do recommend people make the move? Your prick of a president doesn't make it easy for people to move to the 'land of the free' - a nation built by immigrants, for immigrants... my hole.

 

Rifle, Bow hunting and a lot of the fishing is hard to beat in North america.

Trumpis changing the immigration policies to help good folks and inhibit muzzies and other ethnic groups from taking advantage of the USA. You'll soon find it a lot easier to come here. Anyhow, all you have to do is marry one of the tens of thousands of desperate ladies trolling around on FB for a Sugar Daddy. ;)

 

Unfortunately not Dan. I have studied immigration in the US from a neutral point of view (wrote a 20,000 word thesis on it) and worked in an immigration center in Boston. He is not doing any favors for anyone! Good or bad.

 

Give him a little time, he's just finished his first one hundred days. The govt. is so packed crap, it'll take him a little while. Start planning. The first thing you can do is to forget everything you learned in college and get reacquainted with the real world.

 

I'll amend my original offer to say that if you've graduated college within the last 5 years, your not ready to be around me. It's better that you stay over there. Nothing towards you personally ijf, just a general thought. I've had enough of liberal minds so I'm just adding a filter that I didn't write up earlier.

 

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I am living in Canada atm - just had a great weekend out after Black bear actually in BC.

 

If your definition of 'educated' is 'liberal' I have no intention of taking you up on any offer :bye:

 

I have plenty of buddies in the US to go hunting with.

 

From my experience dogs get more work in UK & Ireland because you can use a lamp and therefore see more game. Most of the states I have been to prevent the use of a lamp.

 

Fact of the matter is the majority of dog men would all like to go state side, or any where else, to work their dogs. But to move to the US your best chance would be to get a degree in IT, otherwise your chance of getting a visa is slim to none. But having a recent education is the type of person you don't want to be around so that wouldn't work :huh:

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Check out some of my other posts. I've offered to put dog men up so they can get on their feet and have a go in the USA. IT might be a buss kill for some. We don't drink, swear, party or cause trou

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States like Minnesota, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming.

 

I like Nebraska because it's looks flat as a piece of paper but you have to go for a walk to see what's really going on. It's like upside down moutains. There are all sorts of depressions, creek beds and sunken lakes all over the place. You can look out over the plains and see what looks like a small bush in the distance when in reality, what your looking at is the very top of a 60 foot tree next to a small lake in a great depression in the land. It looks like a very boring place to live to the city folks. They call it one of the flyover states because that's all they would like to have to do with it...fly over it on the way to Los Angeles. It's flat out loaded with game and the running is great for speed dogs.

 

Montana, Colorado and Wyoming have both plains and mountains at about 50/50. Live in the foothills of the mountains and you get to choose which you want to run your dogs in based on which way you turn when you leave your driveway. If it's to hot, go to the mountains, if it's to cold, go to the plains. You can pick your weather with a one hour drive. There is the most variety of game in states like this.

 

Some folks like the cold. I do and that's why I like Minnesota as much as any of the other states. MN doesn't have some of the sheep, goats and elk that the mountain states have but you'll never see me picking a place to live based on the hoofed animals. I like running predators. It has great hunting for all predators except for mountain lions, which it has very few of. Southeastern MN is like a paradise and the sheer amount of game and fish in and around the Mississippi River basin is off of the charts. You can make a living on fish and game there. The area has a long history of commercial hunting and fishing. The area is overflowing with resources and has a lot of springs and flowing water of all kinds with lakes dotting the countryside. There are quite a few Amish folks in this area for that very reason, and they are great for hiring to do various jobs, super honest and do great work.

 

Kansas is similar to Nebraska.

 

Utah is great but you have to put up with all of the Mormons. It's kind of their state. There are a lot of dry counties, which means no alcohol. Not a problem for me but I ain't going to their church.

 

The West has so much public land that you'll never run out of new places to go. On top of that, some of the ranches out there are 10's of thousands of acres large and some are 100's of thousands of acres. Get permission on one of these and your set. They usually are welcoming to good honest predator hunters after they check you out some. If you live out there for a while and don't have a couple of ranches in your pocket, it's not them, it's you.

 

The Dakotas are flat except for the far western ends and the big river valley in the middle. If you like big wide open views and never ending prarrie you like it here because it's also packed with game. I've gone out there and seen as many as 82 coyotes in one three day weekend. There is as much bird hunting as you could ever want. Excellent waterfowl hunting. Better bring a half dozen shovels for the winter though. That's just to dig out your truck so you can plow your driveway. The blowing and drifting snows will shut you in during the very cold winters. Of course, when the sun is out, you'll catch more coyotes on the snow than maybe anywhere. North Dakota has the least gun laws of anywhere I've been. I think you are not allowed to shoot stuff off of a snowmobile and that's about it. There might be a few more but way less than anywhere else I've spent much time hunting.

 

For me it's MN and Colorado and maybe Nebraska and Kansas. I could be very happy in any of them but I don't like the lack of water in many of the other Western states when it comes to living. For a vacation, they are all excellent.

 

That was very informative fella. South Dakota or Nebraska sounds like the place for me! I'm not serious so don't get excited but I have filed that away for future reference. So cheers. :thumbs:

 

I figured people would like a real view of some of the best state from a dog man's point of view. Nebraska is a real gem. The state is sparsely populated and nearly no one hunts the predators except for during deer season. Bobcat pelts go for aroun $150/each and the coon hunters out there break their dogs off of them and most don't even try hunting them. Trappers take quite a few but once the snow hits, they are up for grabs. I don't think there's a limit on them there, just a season. A man with a plan could make a few bucks there just hunting bobcats. I've thought about heading out there for many years to do just that during the month of January. I'm pretty sure I could rack up about 50 of them in a month under ideal conditions. There aren't many trees in most of that state though. Even though, it's jam packed with game. If you want to run coyotes, it's one of the best places. There plenty of hares there, coon, deer, and just about everything else except bear and mtn. lion.

 

South Dakota is a little different. You have to stay long enough to become a resident of the state and then the dog stuff opens up. The Southwestern part of the state where the badlands and the Black Hills are provide the best region for variety but the whole state is packed full of hares and coyotes. It's one of the greatest pheasant hunting states in the USA. There are loads of all of the other stuff to hunt too. Flat as a pancake though. You'll be wanting for some trees there too. Some parts are forested but mostly along the big rivers and the Black Hills. There are some of the coolest places to hunt there despite the vast prairies. The Badlands looks like a completely different planet. Bring your GPS if you ever go there or you may not get back out. Check the Badlands out on Google Earth...

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My brother-in-law lives in south Carolina.

He isn't in to hunting ,but says it's popular there even the local Walmart sell hunting gear. Sounds a cracking country for lads who keep dogs.

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My brother-in-law lives in south Carolina.

He isn't in to hunting ,but says it's popular there even the local Walmart sell hunting gear. Sounds a cracking country for lads who keep dogs.

Walmart, most of the hardware stores and there's Cabela's, Sheels, and a whole list of other hunting stores all over the country. Most counties have fur buyers and several taxidermy shops just about everywhere you go. Getting gear certainly isn't a problem. The Southern states have their charm but you wouldn't catch me East of the Mississippi River if I had the choice. I'm East of the Mississippi now but when my son can get free of his mother I'm moving West. When I go I'll sure miss being near the big waters of Lake Michigan but that will be about all I miss of this land compared to the West. There's way to many people over here where I'm at now.

 

If you get in good with a couple of dairy farmers or the local meat processor, you'll get all of the dog food you want and cutting out the cost of dog food really frees a man to put the money elsewhere.

 

Another thing about the East, there's not much for hares, mtn. lions and large hooved animals. Some places have bears though. This is another result of the larger population in the East half of the USA.

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I've never been pulled here in 30? Years, only time is more motoring incidents i.e. brake lights out in day time.

And I don't have to worry about bears,wolves ,big cats, and alligators lol

I wouldnt mind bears,wolves and big cats if I had USA gun laws!
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I've never been pulled here in 30? Years, only time is more motoring incidents i.e. brake lights out in day time.

And I don't have to worry about bears,wolves ,big cats, and alligators lol

I wouldnt mind bears,wolves and big cats if I had USA gun laws!
I sooner not get my arse handed to me on a plate lol
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Hi Dan,

So have you any experience in getting Visas or anything like that?

 

Seems quiet difficult to get a working visa unless your under 30 (working holiday visa which lasts 2 years). Or you have a degree in something. As I have said I'm a very good climber/arborist so would love to go to montana to work, hunt and fish. Just not sure they would let me in to stay.

What you reckon?

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Tempting. I do like the USA (only the rural areas) and have visited the south a lot as I have family there. I don't foresee leaving Australia any time soon but if I needed work I wouldn't mind it. What's the work like in the agricultural sector and how hard would it be to get a permanent visa? What are property prices like in some of the plains country? I have a degree in Agricultural Science and specialise in livestock consultancy, particularly cattle and pigs.

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Hi Dan,

So have you any experience in getting Visas or anything like that?

 

Seems quiet difficult to get a working visa unless your under 30 (working holiday visa which lasts 2 years). Or you have a degree in something. As I have said I'm a very good climber/arborist so would love to go to montana to work, hunt and fish. Just not sure they would let me in to stay.

What you reckon?

There's always a way. I don't think this is the place to discuss some of it. Let's just say that you don't have be you if you don't want. Just get here and sort it out here. Don't think about the things that will be in your way. Marriage is a good option. There are piles of American girls looking for a man. Getting work with a company that sends employees over here is another option. Living the hillbilly life is quite nice and there are many places to get lost over here. Changing your status in the world is a little different than you might have imagined. There's piles of stuff on YT about it. You can go anywhere you want if you are aware of who you are. There's passports most have not even heard of that allow you to go anywhere and you'll be surprised at how little you have to do to get them.

 

Start by researching the whole freeman/strawman deal and look into passports. This will take you quite a few nights being up late and reading until you pass out but if you do it, you'll thank me for pointing it out.

 

I'm going to pull my offer off of the table soon. I haven't had much interest and the wife and I will are thinking about moving West. It'll take a fair amount of money to do what we are talking about so we'll have to tighten up the purse strings for a little while until we are settled. I can still help someone out for about another 6 months. Next year may see us in a different state. We're looking at the Western states on the east side of the Rocky Mountains. When we're settled, I will open the offer back up to help out good, dedicated, dog men.

 

Also, if you ever have any questions about any of the research I suggested, just shoot me a message and I'll answer any questions that I can. I don't know a lot about the passport end of things because I don't intend to move out of the USA. I can help you get going in the right direction though.

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Tempting. I do like the USA (only the rural areas) and have visited the south a lot as I have family there. I don't foresee leaving Australia any time soon but if I needed work I wouldn't mind it. What's the work like in the agricultural sector and how hard would it be to get a permanent visa? What are property prices like in some of the plains country? I have a degree in Agricultural Science and specialise in livestock consultancy, particularly cattle and pigs.

AU has some of the greatest varmint hunting in the world. I don't now that I would leave there either. Most places you can get land for $1K to $2.5K. There are a bunch of places that have cheaper land but much of it has disadvantages like having to haul in water (desert, high mountain, etc.). There's all of the farm work you want. If you can afford some land I would suggest raising your own farm animals and live simple for a few years until you increase your herd. It's always best to work for yourself if you can manage the buildup time. Two pigs of good breeding can put you in the money in not that many years.

 

The South is hot as hell and I would suggest the middle of the USA but I have never lived in the South and don't like it over 60 degrees (F), so there's that.

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