shaaark 7,539 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Black neck said: There is an air of impertinence about you today furg and you can't be blaming the heat young man No more than what stiffy dishes out, especially to me. No need to blame the heat blacky The last few months, in several of his posts, on a few threads, I'd even go so far as to say he was being obtusive, just for the sake of obtusiveness. Edited December 17, 2020 by shaaark Quote Link to post
Boss-Hog 258 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 you get fallow buck that's been around and seen dogs it will deff open some peoples eyes especialywiv their deer dogs, regular buck dog different class 1 Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 7,681 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Boss-Hog said: you get fallow buck that's been around and seen dogs it will deff open some peoples eyes especialywiv their deer dogs, regular buck dog different class I’d think there’s been a few dogs killed by such animals. Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 10,940 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 55 minutes ago, shaaark said: No more than what stiffy dishes out, especially to me. No need to blame the heat blacky The last few months, in several of his posts, on a few threads, I'd even go so far as to say he was being obtusive, just for the sake of obtusiveness. My whole point is that a roe is nearly always found in pairs or singular . a dog that performs against a roe if that's all it knows is generally found wanting when looses into that big herd moving over the wheat.. it’s a very different prospect for a dog . Two or three targets at most , against one from a moving mass that can eat the ground up when pushed hard . but then you’d know this Quote Link to post
SheepChaser 7,681 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, THE STIFFMEISTER said: My whole point is that a roe is nearly always found in pairs or singular . a dog that performs against a roe if that's all it knows is generally found wanting when looses into that big herd moving over the wheat.. it’s a very different prospect for a dog . Two or three targets at most , against one from a moving mass that can eat the ground up when pushed hard . but then you’d know this You're right about herds, seems to flummox a dog at times, also noticed at the start it can fry the brain of a real stock broke dog a bit, not seeing the trees for the wood as it were. Seems to be time of year though, see roe in 1-3 most of the year, fallow seem to herd up at times, and at others we seem to see lots of 1-3 animal groups. Also I've noticed that once a herd is scattered, they seem to lose their heads a bit and stand about confused in various places. 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 7,539 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: My whole point is that a roe is nearly always found in pairs or singular . a dog that performs against a roe if that's all it knows is generally found wanting when looses into that big herd moving over the wheat.. it’s a very different prospect for a dog . Two or three targets at most , against one from a moving mass that can eat the ground up when pushed hard . but then you’d know this Perhaps I read your earlier posts wrong?it has been known lol Quote Link to post
dogmad riley 1,282 Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 23 hours ago, Boss-Hog said: you get fallow buck that's been around and seen dogs it will deff open some peoples eyes especialywiv their deer dogs, regular buck dog different class A fallow buck in prime condition is a task for any dog definitely alot harder than a roe. Roe certainly can shift but they don't have much fight once caught. The fallow buck on the other hand can shift and has the power to knock a dog out of the way. Iv seen them turn around on the dog and have ago, they certainly opened my eyes. Never ran a red stag, don't think I would entertain one for the sake of the dog 2 Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,795 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13614824/tributes-paid-hunstman-ger-withers-cork-stag/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1609442990 This is what we are working with here, one's thing is for sure if you're a known hunter you will get no sympathy should you be killed. Quote Link to post
dogmad riley 1,282 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 17/12/2020 at 19:43, SheepChaser said: I’d think there’s been a few dogs killed by such animals. I had my deerhound threw about 3m in the air by a fallow, he turned around faced her then got her in his antlers and just threw her like she was nothing Quote Link to post
Shadow100 1,062 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Greb147 said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13614824/tributes-paid-hunstman-ger-withers-cork-stag/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1609442990 This is what we are working with here, one's thing is for sure if you're a known hunter you will get no sympathy should you be killed. Pet/Park deer far more dangerous, after they lose their fear of humans. Although I have known someone to be charged by a wild sika stag. 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 6,769 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 They're strong animals fallow bucks, I seen one break a strand of thick metal wire on a new fence when his antlers hit it Quote Link to post
Gavo 81 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 I’d love to see a dog single handed do one of them IMO I don’t think any dog in open land would hold one bull greyhounds game as can be and like dinosaurs three of them couldn’t do it not going to happen Quote Link to post
Shadow100 1,062 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Gavo said: I’d love to see a dog single handed do one of them IMO I don’t think any dog in open land would hold one bull greyhounds game as can be and like dinosaurs three of them couldn’t do it not going to happen You mean a southern one or just any red stag? Edited January 1, 2021 by Shadow100 Quote Link to post
Shadow100 1,062 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, Gavo said: Red stags Both southern & highland can and have been done with 2 dogs. When it comes to highland stags as well bull greyhounds definitely aren’t the dogs for the job. I think if you had the right dog on the day, and the stag was far enough away from woodland it could be done on the hills single handed, but I’ve never known it to be done yet so can’t say it definitely can be. 1 Quote Link to post
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