Trump Under Fire

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[SheepChaser 8,082]

I don’t understand why folk always think that the  answer to one extreme is another. Why do you have to be a fascist or a communist? Why do you have to be anti or pro something and nothing in between. 
 

Educated discussion, debate and the like is great. 
 

You say no one listens so you have to shout and call names and act like a a bit of a thug. That’s the kind of stuff that immediately makes me stop listening.

Yes, trumps opponent is a twat, but so is trump. 
 

The old adage of my enemies enemy is my friend just doesn’t hold water, or at least maybe only very temporarily. Most people are shit. I dislike most people equally. 
 

I don’t consider myself left wing, a socialist or a communist. But I don’t overly like flag waving, gun toting, rhetoric spouting folk, who always want to tell me how their country is the greatest, their god is the greatest and all that goes with.

I like nice folk, folk with big hearts, who communicate, laugh, enjoy good food, good company, folk that appreciate the small things etc etc 

Doesn't overly matter which side of the political fence they sit, but funnily enough I don’t seem to find too many of the folk with very strong political views who spend their days getting angry .......that fit into my above remit for spending time with someone. 

 

[green lurchers 16,367]

1 hour ago, VOON said:

What’s your point?

It’s a multi point  hope you enjoyed the read.  Mick n  Barack. Was shifting the course with his hatred of USA  when you look at some of his policies they were bordering Marxism. Which  broken down is western hate,  Donnie never created hate he exposed the hate of the opposition  against his country quite self explanatory. Really and joe was part of the fold    Lump on the squad.  You have a terrible situation Donnie wasn’t supposed to win  if he didn’t they could if carried on dismantling USA.  The Marxist goal Jesus voon I’ve gone and explained it to you lol 

Edited October 10, 2020 by green lurchers

[Astanley 11,465]

8 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

I don’t understand why folk always think that the  answer to one extreme is another. Why do you have to be a fascist or a communist? Why do you have to be anti or pro something and nothing in between. 
 

Educated discussion, debate and the like is great. 
 

You say no one listens so you have to shout and call names and act like a a bit of a thug. That’s the kind of stuff that immediately makes me stop listening.

Yes, trumps opponent is a twat, but so is trump. 
 

The old adage of my enemies enemy is my friend just doesn’t hold water, or at least maybe only very temporarily. Most people are shit. I dislike most people equally. 
 

I don’t consider myself left wing, a socialist or a communist. But I don’t overly like flag waving, gun toting, rhetoric spouting folk, who always want to tell me how their country is the greatest, their god is the greatest and all that goes with.

I like nice folk, folk with big hearts, who communicate, laugh, enjoy good food, good company, folk that appreciate the small things etc etc 

Doesn't overly matter which side of the political fence they sit, but funnily enough I don’t seem to find too many of the folk with very strong political views who spend their days getting angry .......that fit into my above remit for spending time with someone. 

 

Love this post

[chartpolski 20,363]

Something we should be very concerned about is the Met Police interviewing Darren Grimes, under caution, for a public order offence, namely "inciting racial hatred".

His crime ?  As a journalist, he interviewed Dr David Sharkey, and during the interview, Sharkey said the words "damn blacks"; take note, SHARKEY said the words, not GRIMES.

Sharkey apologised, but was never interviewed, arrested or charged with any offence.

Its interesting that Grimes was a major brexiteer, and he was charged with some spurious offence about funding and fined £20,000 ! The trumped up charges were thrown out of court on appeal and his fine quashed.

This sounds like payback, they want to get him on something, and don't care what it is !

Politicians from all parties are up in arms about this......it will be interesting to see how it pans out.

Cheers.

[WILF 44,176]

55 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Something we should be very concerned about is the Met Police interviewing Darren Grimes, under caution, for a public order offence, namely "inciting racial hatred".

His crime ?  As a journalist, he interviewed Dr David Sharkey, and during the interview, Sharkey said the words "damn blacks"; take note, SHARKEY said the words, not GRIMES.

Sharkey apologised, but was never interviewed, arrested or charged with any offence.

Its interesting that Grimes was a major brexiteer, and he was charged with some spurious offence about funding and fined £20,000 ! The trumped up charges were thrown out of court on appeal and his fine quashed.

This sounds like payback, they want to get him on something, and don't care what it is !

Politicians from all parties are up in arms about this......it will be interesting to see how it pans out.

Cheers.

They are up in arms BUT they are the ones who made the legislation to allow this type of nonsense......don’t be up in arms, just repeal the legislation ?

[Accip74 7,112]

3 hours ago, SheepChaser said:

I don’t understand why folk always think that the  answer to one extreme is another. Why do you have to be a fascist or a communist? Why do you have to be anti or pro something and nothing in between. 
 

Educated discussion, debate and the like is great. 
 

You say no one listens so you have to shout and call names and act like a a bit of a thug. That’s the kind of stuff that immediately makes me stop listening.

Yes, trumps opponent is a twat, but so is trump. 
 

The old adage of my enemies enemy is my friend just doesn’t hold water, or at least maybe only very temporarily. Most people are shit. I dislike most people equally. 
 

I don’t consider myself left wing, a socialist or a communist. But I don’t overly like flag waving, gun toting, rhetoric spouting folk, who always want to tell me how their country is the greatest, their god is the greatest and all that goes with.

I like nice folk, folk with big hearts, who communicate, laugh, enjoy good food, good company, folk that appreciate the small things etc etc 

Doesn't overly matter which side of the political fence they sit, but funnily enough I don’t seem to find too many of the folk with very strong political views who spend their days getting angry .......that fit into my above remit for spending time with someone. 

 

Great post. This current obsession with right v left & who’s side you are on is becoming/is really unhealthy in my humble opinion. I’m amazed at how keen people are to pigeonhole themselves & revel in division.

[green lurchers 16,367]

 Ive been in the company of lefties in Manhattan  Miami  queens ny    Tampa  central   Can’t say they my kind although  I had to listen to ther shit.  And still enjoyed the night The best folk I been round. We’re out of town real working folk jovial  happy gunslingers. Fishing bbq.   Drinkers Gas guzzling hunting Lovers. All on the right  side of life real  straight up folk no bullshit. Far better than the latte cocktail pretenders.  Just from wat I’ve encountered on me travels sooner be with the real folk than the pretenders 

Edited October 10, 2020 by green lurchers

[VOON 1,313]

5 hours ago, green lurchers said:

It’s a multi point  hope you enjoyed the read.  Mick n  Barack. Was shifting the course with his hatred of USA  when you look at some of his policies they were bordering Marxism. Which  broken down is western hate,  Donnie never created hate he exposed the hate of the opposition  against his country quite self explanatory. Really and joe was part of the fold    Lump on the squad.  You have a terrible situation Donnie wasn’t supposed to win  if he didn’t they could if carried on dismantling USA.  The Marxist goal Jesus voon I’ve gone and explained it to you lol 

Based on what I’ve seen of Trump, I can’t agree with your sentiments.....but You have the right to espouse your point of view....that’s democracy Lurchy....

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21 minutes ago, VOON said:

Based on what I’ve seen of Trump, I can’t agree with your sentiments.....but You have the right to espouse your point of view....that’s democracy Lurchy....

Without a doubt.  I look for facts  nothing else  I resoect the other side. I wouldn’t brick ther windows. Or burn people out or disrespect. But it appears. The new age lazy arse uni Marxist slags are upsetting the norm of norms  I’m full on law n order you shoot at someone you get dropped.  Simple as that you break into some ones house you gone. You a scumbag and act like a cnt. Goodnight.  You wanna walk about waving guns at folk acting gangster boom. That’s I how I see it I don’t buy all this say her name ? She’s a drug dealing ar15  money stashing cnt bye. Be a good person  you safe be a cnt waving guns it’s coming your way. Round all them rioting screaming little cnts up and crack down.   If u wanna dodge hide a sneak from a copper fair play you wanna act gangster. And you get wasted tough shit.   I’m bored with little scumbags. Calling the odds. Go a work pay ya taxes. And see how ya feel instead of feeling every cnt owes Ya little pussys need conscription  or a hard days work wake the soy boy pussys up a bit  other than that trump 2020 lock Hillary Biden and obam bin laden up Oi oi 

Edited October 10, 2020 by green lurchers

[Francie 6,362]

14 minutes ago, VOON said:

Based on what I’ve seen of Trump, I can’t agree with your sentiments.....but You have the right to espouse your point of view....that’s democracy Lurchy....

You seem to not u derstand that America is a constitutional Republic, its not a democracy VOON, keep that in mind. 

[WILF 44,176]

2 hours ago, Accip74 said:

Great post. This current obsession with right v left & who’s side you are on is becoming/is really unhealthy in my humble opinion. I’m amazed at how keen people are to pigeonhole themselves & revel in division.

I totally agree mate, it was a great post and it’s a sentiment I completely agree with and would like to see more of........however, here is the big BUT.......that’s not how things are.

I believe (rightly or wrongly ) that it’s not even worth having the conversation any more (save for with a few sensible lads on here of course)........lots of us tried saying we have genuine fears, grievances and are generally uncomfortable with various things, we were and are just shouted down, legislated against, vilified, criminalised, ostracised and made to feel very unwelcome in the place we thought was OUR home.

Just speaking personally I have come to the conclusion that I counted for nothing in Britain, a place that my forbares had been for at least a 1000 years and I meant nothing, they meant nothing and so my kids and their kids would mean nothing.....I just wasn’t wanted in this new version of Britain.

I am at a point where I know it’s not even worth talking and I think there are lots like me.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 14,553]

7 hours ago, SheepChaser said:

I don’t understand why folk always think that the  answer to one extreme is another. Why do you have to be a fascist or a communist? Why do you have to be anti or pro something and nothing in between. 
 

Educated discussion, debate and the like is great. 
 

You say no one listens so you have to shout and call names and act like a a bit of a thug. That’s the kind of stuff that immediately makes me stop listening.

Yes, trumps opponent is a twat, but so is trump. 
 

The old adage of my enemies enemy is my friend just doesn’t hold water, or at least maybe only very temporarily. Most people are shit. I dislike most people equally. 
 

I don’t consider myself left wing, a socialist or a communist. But I don’t overly like flag waving, gun toting, rhetoric spouting folk, who always want to tell me how their country is the greatest, their god is the greatest and all that goes with.

I like nice folk, folk with big hearts, who communicate, laugh, enjoy good food, good company, folk that appreciate the small things etc etc 

Doesn't overly matter which side of the political fence they sit, but funnily enough I don’t seem to find too many of the folk with very strong political views who spend their days getting angry .......that fit into my above remit for spending time with someone. 

 

Mate , start a conversation with someone and tell them all about your vocation and your bull Xs and see how that chat goes for you . 
 

all kind of flies out the window don’t it . 

[SheepChaser 8,082]

4 hours ago, green lurchers said:

 Ive been in the company of lefties in Manhattan  Miami  queens ny    Tampa  central   Can’t say they my kind although  I had to listen to ther shit.  And still enjoyed the night The best folk I been round. We’re out of town real working folk jovial  happy gunslingers. Fishing bbq.   Drinkers Gas guzzling hunting Lovers. All on the right  side of life real  straight up folk no bullshit. Far better than the latte cocktail pretenders.  Just from wat I’ve encountered on me travels sooner be with the real folk than the pretenders 

This is exactly my point. So all 'real folk' are right wing and all 'pretenders' are left wing? Don't suppose  you've ever met anyone who was sound or a wanker. . . . who didn't have a massive political leaning? Decent folk are decent, regardless of their political leaning, and generally they are easy to spot as they dont start talking politics at the bbq!

[SheepChaser 8,082]

1 hour ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Mate , start a conversation with someone and tell them all about your vocation and your bull Xs and see how that chat goes for you . 
 

all kind of flies out the window don’t it . 

Depends who you hang out with haha. I try really hard not to hang out with too many folk. But i do see your point.